Please help me to decide what to play

[Delirious Nomad]

I'm having a free weekend and want to dedicate it to hardcore role playing gaming. I have started 3 games (under 1 hour in):

Final Fantasy IX
Kingdom Hearts II
Disgaea 2

Please help me decide picking one.

[txa1265]

Of those three I'd go with Kingdom Hearts, but Disgaea is also supposed to be quite good. I'm not a console guy so I don't know for certain.

[Corwin]

If you're dedicated to hardcore gaming, how come you aren't using a PC? Consoles are for kiddies!! :) (apologies to all the console gamers here, but heck, the truth often hurts!! :biggrin: )

[xSamhainx]

No kidding! It's like he just said-

"I want to dedicate this evening to some hardcore cooking. Should I choose Top Ramen, Stouffers, or Chef Boyardee?"

[txa1265]

Consoles are for kiddies!!

While I wouldn't dispute 'consoles are for casual gaming', 'kiddies' is insulting to kids and adults ...

[Corwin]

Perhaps, but the alliteration worked so much better than consoles are for tweenies!! :)

[txa1265]

I guess to further belabor the point, it is a parochial view to dismiss consoles as inherently intellectually inferior to PC's - the focus of the games is often more social, but there are some truly great games for consoles and just calling them 'kiddie' or 'tweenie' indicates a lack of knowledge on that subject.

[Delirious Nomad]

Who said I don't use/ have a PC ? You're right that 90% of console games are for 'kiddies', but I don't care for the platform, when the game is fun to me. Especially the PS2 lets you play a ton of gameplay heavy, turn based (S)RPGs (you don't get much more hardcore than Nippon Ichi titles), while PC RPG releases are becoming more and more action-orientated ( or kiddie-orientated ?). I can take the action, when the RPG environment is rich, like Vampire:Bloodlines. Right now I don't have a new PC RPG to play, because Oblivion, Gothic 3 and NWN2 are no fun to me, but I'm having 3 unplayed games for the PS2 sitting on my shelf, so...

[xSamhainx]

just bein silly, no need to get up in arms

[Acleacius]

Delirious Nomad, yeah they are getting harsh in here. :)
While I am no fan of consoles and I don't really know the titles, is there one that stands out as more fun to you after the first hour of each?
I mean what are you happiest with, atm? :)

[txa1265]

Here's a link to the GamerDad review of Kingdom Hearts II (http://www.gamerdad.com/detail.cfm?itemID=3166) ... she loves that game and so does her whole family.

[Jaz]

Delirious Nomad, don't mind Corwin... he's a man on a mission (wonder how much the industry is paying him for this). *shrugs* Old people get strange sometimes :p...

That aside, I haven't played or seen Disgaea 2, but I'd also recommend KH 2; FF IX was one of the - IMO - weaker parts of the series.

[mogwins]

Um, don't want to get *too* off topic, but I don't think you should jump on Corwin's "consoles are for kiddies" comment too harshly. He kind of has a point: in general PC gaming does tend to attract a more mature/hardcore audience. Case in point: where are the console equivalents of Planescape:Torment, Balder's Gate, Wizardry 8, Civilization, innumerable strategy/war games, etc.?

[Jaz]

I don't care for the platform, when the game is fun to me Same here :). Personally, I prefer certain platforms for certain genres: consoles for platformers, sports games and fighting games, the PC for adventure games, puzzles and shooters. For all other genres (including CRPGs) I actually don't mind which platform they are on. And platform bashing is something I can't stand at all, just like game bashing.

where are the console equivalents of Planescape:Torment, Balder's Gate, Wizardry 8, Civilization, innumerable strategy/war games, etc.?For me, in no particular order: Metal Marines, Final Fantasy VII, Civilization, KotOR, C&C and innumerable others. I found Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance to be just as... um... average as the PC games of the same franchise, however - just not my cup of tea at all (though I played them, at least that), but hey, whatever floats peoples boats.

Mike already said it: different platforms may attract different groups of users, but there are great games for all platforms, if you care to look for them. And you'll find just as many stinkers :).

EDIT: There is no equivalent for P: ST on any console I know of. But there's no equivalent for it on PC, either ;).

[Delirious Nomad]

And what might that Corwin's mission be ? Becoming the grandmaster of generalisations and unasked speach ?
Thanks for the few trying to help. The weekend is here and i gave Disgaea 2 my time because I do really need some laughs now.
So if you don't insist on discussing PC vs. console gaming, you can let this thread die.

[Corwin]

Easily done!!