Fable 3

[Couchpotato]

So just letting anyone know who is interested in fable 3 the confirmed release date is May 17. Looks like pcgamer was right eight months after the xbox release. How typical of Microsoft exclusives. So anyone happy now I heard its a game with problems based on player reviews. No info if the dlc is included just an advanced hardcore mode.

Link-http://majornelson.com/archive/2011/02/24/gears-of-war-3-beta-update-and-much-more-just-announced-long.aspx

[DArtagnan]

Without Fable 2 - it's really rather pointless, isn't it.

Brains > Molyneux

[Couchpotato]

Without Fable 2 - it's really rather pointless, isn't it.

Brains > Molyneux

Fable 2 was going to be released on the pc but Microsoft pulled out and canceled the release. Nothing new from a company that claims to care about pc gaming.

[JDR13]

Without Fable 2 - it's really rather pointless, isn't it.

It's probably pointless anyways. :)

[DoctorNarrative]

8 months later than the console version, released in a packed May window and on top of all that released the same day as The Witcher 2.

And then they will blame low sales on piracy or the decline of the PC platform.

Great!

[Couchpotato]

8 months later than the console version, released in a packed May window and on top of all that released the same day as The Witcher 2.

And then they will blame low sales on piracy or the decline of the PC platform.

Great!

Yes pretty stupid or smart of them to release it with the Witcher 2.Either way they win.

[Alrik Fassbauer]

Personally, I doubt that they see The Witcher as a competor.

[Khalus]

Been waiting for this title too, but come mid may I'd rather spend my money on the Witcher II. Seriously they need to stop releasing mediocre games on the same day, same week or even same month as superior titles.

I don't want to PC gaming to get any worse than it already is, but damnit whomever is in charge of picking release date, grow a brain and be a little more smart about it!

[SAGO]

bros...got a good question.

will fable 3 use DRM of any kind?

[Couchpotato]

bros…got a good question.

will fable 3 use DRM of any kind?

Apparently It's linked to Games for Windows Live, so you'll be able to play offline but cannot access any official DLC or play co-op without connecting and probably registering.

[Khalus]

Apparently It's linked to Games for Windows Live, so you'll be able to play offline but cannot access any official DLC or play co-op without connecting and probably registering.


Won't really matter concerning the DLC, since the PC version will have everything prior including the latest one coming out soon, and personally I believe the PC ver will be their swan song, with nothing else being released afterward.

[Korplem]

I had no intention of picking this game up based on my experience with Fable 2 but my friend gave it to me as a gift. It turned out to be a lot better than F2, mainly because it's more polished this time. But if you did not like F1 or F2, don't bother with this one. It's not drastically different than those. You still interact with villagers the same way - like making women fall in love with you by belching in their faces or whatever. The humor and a handful of quests stood out as good but everything else was mediocre. I think one of the best quests is when a group of table-top rpg nerds use you as a game piece.

[porcozaur]

...pc demo...

Microsoft has confirmed that next week (May 17, 2011) fans will be able to try out Fable III before deciding to purchase it or not as a demo will be made available for download.

http://worthplaying.com/article/2011/5/10/patch/81317/

[snowflake]

finally the most awaited game!

[Couchpotato]

A polished turd is what is. Now based on the console reviews and user reviews the game is mediocre. I was hyped for the game last year but with the delays and the information given I will pass on it., Witcher 2 has my attention this month.

[DoctorNarrative]

I'm replaying Fable right now before Fable 3 comes out. I have to say the game holds up well, it's very fun and has a very unique style that stands apart from pretty much every other RPG out there.

I know Fable 3 reportedly made some very bad decisions, but I am still interested in it. I'll be playing The Witcher 2 first of course.

[DArtagnan]

I liked Fable - the first game - quite a bit, actually. The only problem I had with it, was that it was way too short for such a game. But it was refreshing to play a CRPG that didn't try to stand in the way of having a truly powerful character.

Most games these days overdo it a bit in terms of balance.

Fable 2 never really grabbed me, but it was still a nice enough game.

Everything I've heard about Fable 3, though, tells me it's the weakest of the three.

[DoctorNarrative]

I never played Fable 2 as I lack an Xbox (and would probably get a PS3 if I did get a new console). I heard mixed things about it, and even more mixed things about Fable 3. Still, I'm going to give it a try. It is (or at least was) a unique experience.

[Zloth]

Fable 2 wasn't horrible, it was just very light. If you're getting a little tired of finding out that the nice dwarf you tried to help is actually a terrorist and/or wife beater, you could pop a Fable game in for a little relief. It's some cotten candy after your steak & grits. (Or, if you would rather have a potatoe, you could go for Portal 2 instead. ;))

[JDR13]

It's some cotten candy after your steak & grits. (Or, if you would rather have a potatoe, you could go for Portal 2 instead. ;))

I think I'll pass on the cotton candy, but I'll gladly go back for more of that potato. :cool:

[DoctorNarrative]

Fable 2 wasn't horrible, it was just very light. If you're getting a little tired of finding out that the nice dwarf you tried to help is actually a terrorist and/or wife beater, you could pop a Fable game in for a little relief. It's some cotten candy after your steak & grits. (Or, if you would rather have a potatoe, you could go for Portal 2 instead. ;))

Yeah, that's one of the main reasons I am enjoying Fable right now replaying it, it's just silly and fun. Then I will play TW2 and get a lot of more serious RPGing, then Fable 3 for more silly fun.

[Lurking Grue]

It's some cotten candy after your steak & grits. (Or, if you would rather have a potatoe, you could go for Portal 2 instead. ;))
And just like cotton candy, it's nice at first, but very quickly it becomes repulsive (possibly even making you ill).

I tried Fable 2 back in the day (on Xbox 360) and after the "new game excitement" vanished, found it too simplistic and boring to keep playing it till the end (got as far as the Crucible challenge before quitting). Endlessly repetetive and respawning fights and ultra-light NPC interaction don't score high with me. The story, what little of it there is, didn't help at all either and made little sense. And as I didn't know how to draw enjoyment from kossack dancing and farting at peoples faces (got old REALLY fast after the first few tries) there wasn't anything to keep me playing the game. Disappointing all around.

[JDR13]

Endlessly repetetive and respawning fights and ultra-light NPC interaction don't score high with me. The story, what little of it there is, didn't help at all either and made little sense. And as I didn't know how to draw enjoyment from kossack dancing and farting at peoples faces (got old REALLY fast after the first few tries) there wasn't anything to keep me playing the game. Disappointing all around.

That pretty much describes how I felt about the original Fable. I actually finished it, but I really had to force myself through the second half of the game. I gave my copy away as soon as I finished it.

[DoctorNarrative]

The enemies respawning everywhere is annoying but since you can teleport anywhere at any time it isn't really a big deal. The story is weak yes, but the world and personality are strong… sort of like a Bethesda game (though much different in tone and gameplay). You can completely ignore the social aspects and gestures.

In any case I can see why people dislike the game but I love it.

[Maylander]

I have to agree with DN - the world (Albion) is actually quite interesting. What I like about Fable 1-2 (haven't played 3 yet, probably will soon) is the honesty of it all: It never claims to be the deepest, most complex game ever. Everything from the animations to the light hearted humor indicates that the game doesn't take itself too seriously.

This is very unlike a lot of games that are actually on the same level, but still claim to be targeted towards oldschool RPG fans.

[DoctorNarrative]

I have to agree with DN - the world (Albion) is actually quite interesting. What I like about Fable 1-2 (haven't played 3 yet, probably will soon) is the honesty of it all: It never claims to be the deepest, most complex game ever. Everything from the animations to the light hearted humor indicates that the game doesn't take itself too seriously.

This is very unlike a lot of games that are actually on the same level, but still claim to be targeted towards oldschool RPG fans.

Indeed. I don't get bashing the game for being a simple and fun little game, that is what it wants to be.

[Motoki]

You know, the first game was in development for a long time and there was a lot of hype about it. It was portrayed as anything but a simple game and pretty much the most advanced RPG ever. If anyone remembers how Bethesda hyped Radiant AI vs the reality of it, it was pretty much along those lines.

For me the hype ruined the first game. I was expecting a lot and not some simple cutesy game where you fart at npcs.

That of course is just my experience but sometimes I think developers should just shut the hell up and let their games speak for themselves instead of doing them a disservice.

[DArtagnan]

True enough.

When it was known as Project Ego - it was supposed to be the ultimate CRPG. Molyneux has since been established as the ultimate mouthpiece - but back then, people still expected him to hold true to his word.

The actual game was anything but the ultimate CRPG - but I still liked it. That said, I can't blame anyone for being very disappointed after the ridiculous hype.

[DoctorNarrative]

I don't really rate games on hype, and probably more importantly back then I paid about zero attention to gaming press. I just saw Fable in the store and bought it, and had a good time.

[DArtagnan]

If you hadn't heard about Fable at that time, you were definitely living in a cave.

Theoretically, you can ignore everything surrounding a game - and look at what it is in a vacuum.

Personally, I find that very hard to do. Even as jaded and cynical as I am, I find it impossible not to be affected by hype when it reaches a certain level.

I'd have to sever my connection to the Internet completely.

[JDR13]

I found Fable mediocre, regardless of hype. Since I wasn't very familiar with Peter Molyneux back then anyways, I wasn't really swayed by anything he said prior to release. My only real exposure to Fable, prior to playing it, was seeing a few screenshots.

Before Fable, the only Molyneux games I had played were Populous and Magic Carpet, but I wasn't big on associating developer's names with games back in those days.

[Motoki]

I don't really rate games on hype, and probably more importantly back then I paid about zero attention to gaming press. I just saw Fable in the store and bought it, and had a good time.

"I don't really rate games based on hype" sounds kind of condescending to me. Some people follow various game development out of interest and of course we want to believe what we are told by the developers. When they get excited we get excited etc. Some of those developers just aren't very good at putting realistic expectations out there and that creates problems.

It's probably good advice to take most hype with a grain of salt, but if I don't have past experience with a developer then I do want to give them the benefit of the doubt. If I hear about this great new game that sounds like exactly what I have been looking for, well, it makes me interested. Perhaps it's naive but it's also something to look forward to.

I think expectations do play a part for some people in terms of games. Dragon Age 2 for instance is a game I think some people may have been able to enjoy more for what it was had they not had such expectations for it. I am fairly certain the user ratings for that game would have been higher if it were called something else and had less expectations attached to it.

Once something has been read, it can't be unread and it's very difficult to completely ignore it and evaluate a game as a blank slate. I guess an alternative is to not follow any gaming news at all but then you potentially miss out on some good games you may not have otherwise known about.

As for my experience with Fable, it's hard for me to say if I would have enjoyed it more had I not been exposed to all the hype since I can't undo that, but I tend to think I would have.

In the case of the first game I did find fault for it being so simple because that wasn't what I was lead to believe I'd be getting. However in the case of the sequels I don't think anyone can say that. It's pretty obvious you know what you are getting, more of the same. It is what it is and you either like it or don't.

[DoctorNarrative]

"I don't really rate games based on hype" sounds kind of condescending to me.

I didn't mean it that way at all, I'm just saying a good game is a good game. Something hyped to the stratosphere that only ends up being "good" might be disappointing, but it is still a good game.

If you hadn't heard about Fable at that time, you were definitely living in a cave.

I was very active socially when Fable came out and I didn't play many games. From about 2003 through 2008 or so I played games very rarely and bought like a few a year. I never read gaming news or anything regularly, I just checked IGN every couple weeks or so. I remember finding out Oblivion was getting an expansion (Shivering Isles) from a magazine cover at the supermarket.

To me Fable was a cute looking game I saw on the shelf at Best Buy and I gave it a shot. It wasn't amazing but it was fun and it had a very unique style that truly separated it from the crowd. Playing it today I feel the same way.

[Motoki]

I didn't mean it that way at all, I'm just saying a good game is a good game. Something hyped to the stratosphere that only ends up being "good" might be disappointing, but it is still a good game.


Okay then I completely read that wrong and I apologize. It's hard to gauge comments online sometimes without intonation and body language to help and I wasn't sure so that was why I mentioned it.

I've gotten somewhat desensitized to hype in recent years after several disappointing, but I'm still not totally immune. I admit I've gotten caught up in some of the Witcher 2 hype. I've told myself they are so far into the development stage that the hype is probably fairly accurate but we'll see soon enough I guess. It's definitely dangerous to get too excited about information on games early in development though.

I may yet play Fable 3. I think I should be able to enjoy it for what it is given that I don't have high expectations for it now. I've got a lot of other stuff on my gaming plate though so it will probably have to wait a while.

[DArtagnan]

I was very active socially when Fable came out and I didn't play many games. From about 2003 through 2008 or so I played games very rarely and bought like a few a year. I never read gaming news or anything regularly, I just checked IGN every couple weeks or so. I remember finding out Oblivion was getting an expansion (Shivering Isles) from a magazine cover at the supermarket.

Living in a cave in gaming terms :)

Nothing wrong with that - and it certainly explains your forgiving nature towards developers a bit.

I've found that not following development of games is a great way to reduce disappointment - but it's hard to stay away from news completely.

As far as Fable is concerned, we agree. I enjoyed it quite a bit for its innocent charm and flexible character system. I also found it was really pretty and I greatly enjoyed the Zelda-inspired features like the Demon Doors and stuff like that.

Absolutely nowhere near the original promises, but for some reason I got past that pretty quickly.

In terms of atmosphere and setting, I much prefer lighthearted stuff like this to pretentious bullshit like Dragon Age 2 or many other modern games trying hard to be edgy and appeal to angsty teenagers.

[DoctorNarrative]

Living in a cave in gaming terms :)

Pretty much. Long story short I was single adult for the first time ever in 2003 and I had some good times ;)

In terms of atmosphere and setting, I much prefer lighthearted stuff like this to pretentious bullshit like Dragon Age 2 or many other modern games trying hard to be edgy and appeal to angsty teenagers.

THIS IS THE NEW SHIT!

[Dasale]

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In terms of atmosphere and setting, I much prefer lighthearted stuff like this to pretentious bullshit like Dragon Age 2 or many other modern games trying hard to be edgy and appeal to angsty teenagers.

That's the sign you are close to be fully disconnected from the new generations, out of the loop and unable to understand the new stuff. Woo I'm very sorry for you, the dark age is in front of you, soon you'll hurt it if it's not already done.

I suppose it's a hint of my forever youth to have been able to enjoy DA2 despite many elements badly done.

[Alrik Fassbauer]

Yeah, I agree insofar as if the DArk Fantasy genre is currently coming in at full swing.

[Alrik Fassbauer]

Oh, now they're calling it "Farble III (uncut)" …
http://www.amazon.de/Microsoft-Fable-III-uncut/dp/B003RBBWM4/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1312889571&sr=1-3

This is to me only just another example of that "uncut" hype …

The entry "Trine [Uncut]" doesn't exist anymore on Amazon Germany ...

[Pessimeister]

Sorry to put a dampener on all of the rather pleasant Fable tolerance going on in this thread gents, but I have to say in all honesty that I found it to be fairly saccharine rubbish. I think it was over in 11 hours or so, thus it was quite short.
Whilst the Lost Chapters improved the experience somewhat for me, I could certainly never replay it.

It's a nice little hand me down perhaps to someone just getting their feet wet in the genre maybe, but alas, I couldn't get much out of it. I'm yet to see Fable 2 in action, not sure if I want to! :D

[Alrik Fassbauer]

I'm currently playing Fable I, and I quite like it so far ! :)

On the other hand, I'm not quite the person who would like The Witcher ... ;)

[JDR13]

I don't think anyone here is shocked by that. ;)

Glad to hear you're enjoying it though.