Recipies & Ingredients (incomplete)

[JemyM]

Alchemy ingredient list for beginner alchemy

Ingredients
Armorweed: Permanent endurance potion
Bison Horn: Bison transformation potion
Blood Reed: Crocodile transformation potion
Bloodfly Stinger: Bloodfly transformation potion, Poison,
Bottle: Booze and Nordmar Nogginfog
Booze: Used for endurance potions, Broadsword
Boozeberry: Booze, Nordmar Nogginfog
Carrot: Stew
Demon Mushroom: Heal weakness
Dragonroot: Permanent strength potion
Fire Lizard Tongue: Fire lizard transformation potion
Fire nettle: Mana potion
Flameberry: Permanent mana potion
Goblinberry: Permanent hunting potion
Healing Plant: Healing potion and Nordmar Nogginfog
Healing Root: Healing potion
Ironstem: Endurance potion
King's thistle: Lion transformation potion
Light: Ruby blade
Lizards Tongue: Lizard transformation potion
Lurker Claw: Lurker transformation potion
Magic ore blank: El Bastardo (sword), Ore two-hander, Ruby blade, Nordmarian sword
Magic root: Mana potion
Mana Plant: Mana potion
Morning dew: Mana potion
Nordmar Nogginfog: Nordmarian Sword
Ogreleaf: Endurance potion
Poison Bladder: Swamp Lurker transformation potion, Poison, Deadly Poison
Raw meat: Lion transformation potion
Raw steel: Broadsword, Two-hander
Reignweed: Permanent life force potion
Rice: Stew
Roast Meat: Stew
Sabertooth: Nordmarian Sword
Shadowbeast horn: Shadowbeast transformation, Ore-two-hander
Sulphur: El Bastardo (sword)
Sunweed: Healing potion
Swampweed: Swamp Lurker transformation potion
Toadwort: Antidote, Deadly Poison
Vial: Used for all potions
Water: Used for healing potions and Lurker transformation
Weaken: El Bastardo (sword)
Wild berry: Healing potion
Wild boar tusk: Wild Boar transformation potion
Wine: Used for mana potions and Stew
Wolfskin: Broadsword
Wolfweed: Wolf transformation potion


Potions
All potions require 1 vial.

Misc Potions
Antidote (Cure Poison)
1 Healing Potion, 1 Poison, 1 Toadwort

Heal weakness (Cure weakness)
1 Healing Potion, 2 Demon Mushroom

Endurance Potions
All endurance potions require 1 booze and restore 100% endurance.

1. Ogreleaf (x1) (Yellow)
2. Ironstem (x3) (Brown)

Healing Potions
All healing potions require 1 water and restore 50% health.

1. Healing Plant (x1)
2. Healing Root (x5)
3. Sunweed (x3)
4. Wild Berry (x8)

Mana Potions
Requires "Brew Mana Potion" and 20 alchemy.
All mana potions require 1 wine and restore 50% mana.

1. Mana Plant (x1)
2. Fire Nettle (x3)
3. Magic Root (x5)
4. Morning Dew (x8)

Permanent Potions
Requires "Potions with permanent effects" and 40 alchemy.
All permanent potions require 1 King's Sorrel.

Potion of concentration (Mana +4)
1 Flameberry
Potion of life force (Life energy +4)
1 Reignweed
Potion of Endurance (Endurance +4)
1 Armorweed
Hunting Potion (Hunting +2)
1 Goblinberry
Potion of Strength (Strength +2)
1 Dragonroot

Transformation potions
Requires "Brew transformation potions" and 60 alchemy.
All transformation potions require 1 Strange Mushroom

Bloodfly
1 Bloodfly stinger
Bison
1 Bison horn
Crocodile
1 Water, 2 Blood reed
Fire Lizard
1 Fire Lizard Tongue
Lion
1 Raw meat, 1 King's Thistle
Lizard
1 Lizards Tongue
Lurker
1 Water, 1 Lurker Claw
Shadowbeast
1 Mana potion, 1 Shadowbeast horn
Swamp Lurker
1 Swampweed, 1 Poison Bladder
Wild Boar
2 Wild Boar Tusk
Wolf
1 Raw meat, 1 Wolfweed

Poisons
Requires "Make poison".

1. Poison Bladder (x1)
2. Bloodfly stinger (x10)

Deadly Poison
1 Poison Bladder, 1 Toadwort

Recipies

Booze
All booze needs 1 Bottle and restore 50% endurance.
1. Boozeberry (x5)
2. Cactus Flower (x8)

Other Recipies
Nordmar Nogginfog (+10% Life, +50% endurance)
2 Healing Plant, 10 Boozeberry, 1 Bottle

Meatbug ragout (+20% Life Energy)
1 Milk, 1 Roast meatbug

Stew (+12% Life Energy)
1 Wine, 2 Carrot, 1 Roast Meat, 1 Rice

Blueprints
Poison Arrow
1 Poison, 1 Arrow

Longsword
1 Ore, 5 Iron Ore, 1 Raw Steel

Broadsword
1 Booze, 1 Wolfskin, 1 Raw Steel

El Bastardo
2 Sulphur, 1 Weaken, 1 Magic Ore Blank

Master Sword
2 Katana, 1 Magic ore blank

Ruby Blade
1 Light, 500 Coin, 1 Magic ore blank

Two-hander
2 Raw steel

Ore Two-hander
1 Shadowbeast horn, 2 Magic ore blank

Nordmarian Sword
4 Sabertooth, 1 Nordmar Nogginfog, 1 Magic ore blank

[Maylander]

Edit: Just wanted to finish searching before asking - anyone know where to actually get the best weapon recipes? Becoming a master smith and capable of making true ore weapons through Ingvars questline doesn't exactly do a whole lot when there are no such recipes to be found..?

[Acleacius]

I wanted to say great job!
I was waiting till I could add something too but I haven't had time, yet. ;)

[JemyM]

Isnt the greatest problem with permanent potions that you need 45 King's Sorrel -freebies to make it worth it?

I am level 26, I have earned +22 points of alchemy and have found 11 King's Sorrel so far, so I am 23 points/ks short.

[Acleacius]

Well you defenatly won't like one quest for an Alchemist in Geldorn (iir) whom wants 10 KSs.
He teaches an important Perk at least too me, so I gave them. ;)

[Maylander]

You'll get 60 alchemy even without spending a single point in it - there are so many Bookshelves around the world that all gives +5. In fact, you can get 80+ without ever spending points in it, so just save up any Kings Sorrel till later.

The problem in G3 with permanent potions is: They're just not worth it anymore. They don't give +5 to the attribute like they used to - they now only give +2, and in a game where you can reach level 70 instead of 35 in Gothic 2, a few skills here and there won't really make any difference.

[JemyM]

Added a few.

That Stew is overcooked. The Roast Meat lost 8% effect and the Rice, Wine and Carrot have no effect.

[curious]

i disagree maylander if you are anything but a mage. it costs 5 points to learn. Any like you said with the lecterns, plus quest bonuses you can reach 100 no problem which upset me since i spent 20 points on it in the beginning. still i thought it was worth it. strength and hunting both require 1 lp to raise 1 pt whereas mana, life, and endurance net you 4 pts per lp. the permanent potions are twice the value then to use as a strength or hunting potion. i was a fighter/hunter in my first game i finshed last night and i aquired well over 2 dozen king's sorrel most of which i spent in strength and the rest in hunting

[JemyM]

I used it for some hunting bonuses to get me up to 130. Beyond that I think Mana/Life/Endurance is what it's needed for, but King's Sorrel is rare and at least 4 are used up in quests. :( But at the stage I am in I can waste LP to the left and right without suffering.

[Maylander]

I've counted at least 13 used in quests, so that really reduces the number. Also, whether you have 600hp or 700hp or 500str or 550str makes no difference. I think JemyMs use is the most reasonable - getting hunting with it if you're no hunter, because that enables you to get skinning, which is used for quite a few quests. Other than that it makes no difference, I usually end up with 50+ LP that I have no real use for.

[curious]

after level 15 or so I carried somewhere between 50-120 unused lps for the rest of the game ended at 79 doing nearly all quest minus some orc and hashishin and with only clearing half of varant, was about 60 by the time i got there. i too used the hunting to get skinning early on but was close to 300 near the later part of the game since hunting was so fun...so much time in nordmar...snowy days are quite difficult. by the way beating people up to take back the king's sorrel is not an exploit since there is an amnesia scroll/spell, though i only remember 4 being taken. i mainly just wanted to say i thought it was foolish to waste permanent potions on anything other than strength or hunting. Life, mana, and endurance are the only stats in the game that you can't get bonuses through quests, another reason to limit your lp on other attributes

[JemyM]

Added a few more blueprints.

[Maylander]

Normanndir Sword(or something, not Normander as you'd think)
Requires 1 Nordmar Nogginfog, some ore and a Light spell scroll I think it was.

[Corwin]

What is interesting with permanent potions, is that a perm hunt adds 2, while simply eating 1 goblinberry adds 1. The potion is really worthless since it wastes a KS!!

[Maylander]

That's a good point, spending 1ks + 1gb to get 2 hunting is, in most cases, not worth it since 2ks is worth more than simply the 2gb you have to eat to get 2 hunting.

[curious]

too much swampweed for you guys. how can you justify spending point for point lps on hunting and strength when you get 4 times as much mana, health, and endurance by spending one point. The permanent potions give you a ratio of only twice as much. unless you are not using a bow or hunting at all (like i am in my new mage character) you would still need strength potions for a mage since although i'm not positive i believe stave combat is still affected by strength. also corwin, unlike the prior Gothics i don't think you get any bonus from eating a king sorrel so there's really no 'wasting' it. i'm also keeping track this time through of all plants used in permanent potions. so in a few weeks time ill let you all now how many there are. as a hunter/fighter i put all dragonroots into strength potions and almost all goblin berries with only having to eat a couple.

@jemym - there is a rune sword you can make, possibly best sword in game as it also has protection bonuses it requires a pure magic ore blank which is only available via quest in nordmar...strange however i found the recipe later in a temple in varant.

[Corwin]

I saw a pure magic ore blank somewhere else (I haven't been to Nordmar yet), but didn't pay much attention, cause I'm not into smithing with my current character!!

[curious]

im sure it was just a regular magic ore blank - a random chest drop and even sold by some merchants - there is only one pure one in the game and it is a lengthy task to get it - you have to return the forge to the fire clan by defeating nearly 100 orcs then you have to do the smelters quests - possibly the biggest "needle in a haystack" quest of the game - then you are "able to forge a pure ore weapon" - plus when you get it i don't think it even shows up in your inventory, only when you go to forge a pure ore weapon does it show up in the recipe--

heres to recipes for you

Tunnelrumbler - a wicked brew from nordmar (used in a quest, i think it was for a guy that will follow you around nordmar any where you want to go, he's a fighter too not like some of the hunters that get beat down pretty easy.

2 ore
2 minecrawler mandibles
20 boozeberries
1 bottle


Rune Sword (1 handed 105 attack, +5 protection from blades, impact, and missles)

1 lightning bolt
1 ice lance
1 fireball
1 pure magic ore blank

[curious]

what is the attack rating on the master sword, i've seen some say its the best sword in the game, but it would seem like a 2 handed sword if it takes 2 katanas and it does not take a pure magic ore blank, which makes sense if people are getting it in varant not from the master smiths of the north?

[Maylander]

I did the smith quest and never got the rune sword at all. Perhaps a bug.

The master sword is great for dual-wielders because it adds master dual-wield, which is very hard to get(only 1 trainer and he's in Ishtar).

Also, there are other pure ore weapons, such as the Ancestor Sword. No idea how to get the recipe though.

[Obthic3]

im sure it was just a regular magic ore blank - a random chest drop and even sold by some merchants - there is only one pure one in the game and it is a lengthy task to get it

There is definitely NOT only one pure magic ore blank in the game! :P

I played the game a little bit strange, because I got to Nordmar with level 25 or 26. With level 48 I was finished there and had 101 reputation there (But still think I missed a quest at the Hammer Clan..)
As mastersmith you won't get a blueprint for a sword (at least my friends and I never got such a blueprint) and I never found one - but good, that I can forge these swords if I EVER find a blueprint.... -.-
With about level 55 I found a Chest above Gotha in the mountains where I got a second pure magic ore blank.
Maybe it was only luck, but the chest was guarded by a Black-Troll and I think not many people found that....(I came from Okara...and try to write how to get there tomorrow - so you all can open the chest and say if it was luck or that there is always a blank^^)

Greetings :)

[curious]

magic ore blank is not equal to pure magic ore blank. i confess there might be a second one since one of the 3 recipes in the game call for 2 pure magic ore blanks but that might be a typo. the fact that you have to spend hours to become a mastersmith to recieve 1 pure magic ore blank means it is nearly impossible that you are just going to 'find' one in a chest somewhere since it is a 'rare' item and the most valuable.

read the posts on 'chests' and you will know more.

[Obthic3]

magic ore blank is not equal to pure magic ore blank.

Thx for THAT information...I would have never known this without your post...(sorry if I'm a little bit harsh, but if you are refering to my post - what I am guessing, since the last reply in this thread is one month ago - it's like saying that I don't know what I found and what I'm talking about.)
Smith = Raw Steel
Forge Ore Weapons = Magic Ore Blank
Forge Pure Ore Weapons = Pure Magic Ore Blank


i confess there might be a second one

Like I said, I GOT a second one.


since one of the 3 recipes in the game call for 2 pure magic ore blanks but that might be a typo.

I never even saw a recipe for a pure magic ore weapon and I'm not able to create one at the Forge in the mine after learning the perk from Ingvar.
If you only can get these recipes with luck from chest, then I won't think P.Byte thought about what they were doing...
"Cool I learned from the BEST Smith in the world (Ingvar) and now I'm one of the best Smiths in this world.....but damn! I can't smith anything good, because I haven't found a Blueprint....what a pitty."
About Blueprints I guess you know a lot more than me. :)
And if this recipe for 2 pure magic ore blanks exist, it is definatly possible to create it - for me -> if i get that damn recipe :D


the fact that you have to spend hours to become a mastersmith to recieve 1 pure magic ore blank means it is nearly impossible that you are just going to 'find' one in a chest somewhere since it is a 'rare' item and the most valuable.

Yes you have to spend many hours for this, but I would say - IF - this chest has a 100% chance for a "pure magic ore blank" then it would only be another evidence that P.Byte forgot to install something called "balancing" in the game...
And IF the chest had this blank only for me...i would say it in your words: It is nearly impossible BUT only nearly....


read the posts on 'chests' and you will know more.

I read the posts there before and I really don't know what you want to tell me (and others) with your whole post. I hope you can explain it.
If you want to say that you don't believe me, just say it - but with the words "believe" and "not" in a sentence.
If you want to say that you are sure, I only got luck finding this second, than say it.
Or/And if you think that the "chests" posts will help me...please give me the post THAT should help me...I personally can only see in that thread that most of the chest have more or less "random-loot" but some (can) hold a special item.



Anyway....why I wanted to post was to direct you to this chest, that (hopefully) some of you try to get there (if you have never been there before), look in the chest (but beware of the Troll - Don't feed the Troll!) and answer me, if I had luck or if it's a static item in the chest.

Start at Okara and head
- EAST until you find the cave with the five Trolls
- then head NORTH and hug the mountain - you will pass a burned house where some undeads are, then you will pass the Orks watching the Nordmar pass
- in Nordmar run EAST and stay at the "border" between snow and meadow (don't know a better word at the moment^^)
- you should end at a cliff - JUMP DOWN (or slide down to avoid damage)
- then follow the way and head SOUTH to a plateau where you can find some Snapper - do with them whatever you like and still southwards
- you will find 2skelletons with 2 chests (one locked and one unlocked) still southwards to a group of trees near the end of the cliff
- there is the CHEST with skelleton at the ground - and the Black Troll
-> To be sure that you are at the right place...look down from the cliff...if there is Gotha you found it!

And now go, search the chest and answer...or if you already found it and still know it answer too :D

Greetings

PS: I don't want to insult you curious, I only disliked the way your post was written :/

[curious]

i opened that chest in my 2nd run through the game in my quest to open all the chests, which i believe i did. i doubt you because you haven't proven otherwise. if you show me a screenshot of the 2 pure magic ore blanks i will be delighted. part of the problem is during my second game i was playing a pure mage and thus didn't learn and smithing or hunting so i was unable to finish the mastersmith quest so i never got the pure magic ore blank. but from my first game i got it and made the rune sword, only one i found in that game, but i don't ever remember actually ever seeing the pure magic ore blank in my inventory. therefore i'm not sure if you even get one (would like to be proven wrong here, really). its possible it just flags you as having earned it and then lets you create one of these "once in a lifetime" swords. here is the recipe that requires 2 and is the strongest sword in the game. the 2 recipes below it are 1 handed pure magic ore recipes.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o44/mjfossum/pureoreweapon.jpg

sorry if i sounded arrogant but i really am almost positive of my 'theories'. spent quite a bit of time though it has been 2 weeks or so since ive played the game. if you open all the 'special' chests you will get the above recipe but only after you open all of them since it is the 'best' special item you can find.

[Obthic3]

Here is a screenshot: http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=puremagicoreblankpk9.png

But like I said...found no recipe, so I never used them :(
And next time I'll play the game I will choose a mage...and a mage won't need swords^^

Greetings

[curious]

thanks! that sucks that the pure magic ore is a random item then. what was your thieving skill, that in addition to character level, may have some effect on finding it. you'll definately want to find those 'special' chests as a mage since there are some great staffs to find --see staffology post.

[Obthic3]

what was your thieving skill, that in addition to character level, may have some effect on finding it.

On the screenshot I linked my character had 38 Thieving....as I opened the chest about 5 levels earlier I would guess it was something around 35 :)


I will never get the point of thieving in this game....for opening chest?
Learn difficult chests and you are fine.

Pick pocketing?
Don't like the "speak and then get something - or get attacked" system

Make excuses?
Why should I make excuses if I can say "Bite me", he attacks me, I knock him down...."loot" him and he is as happy as if I said "Oh well you know it wasn't me...maybe a little child or a ghost"...

murder?
Why should I murder? :D but thats me^^

knock down?
Hmm with this fight-system I don't need a knock down...only enemies you can "fear" are spellcasters and some raging animals.


I'm a fan of Thieving in every game, but in G3 i don't get the point why I should take it.^^


IF thieving gives me a better chance for finding items....then its still strange I got it (or is 38 much in thieving?^^). And only for finding items i won't spent points in thieving :D


Greetings

[bjon045]

Pure ore blanks are random after you open a certain number of "impossible" chests, the same as the powerful staffs and weapons like the katana (although one can also be found in faring). I ended up with 4 pure ore blanks in my game after pretty much exploring the entire world. 3 came from the random "impossible" chests.

Permanent Potions give you you +5 in gothic 2 and only +3 in gothic 2 NOTR (although some +5 potions still exist in the world but cannot be brewed) so there is really not that much of a difference than brewing permanent potions between G3 and NOTR except you can spend a lot less points in G3 and there are more herbs to be found.

Master sword is 105 attack (I was pissed that they made it a strength based weapon!!! not like in G2) and the best one hander is 115 attack and the 2 hander was 125. Maybe there are better ones but those are the ones I came across. I only played through once as a thief/hunter so I didn't pay that much attention to the melee weapons.

edit: I am not sure if those are the honed attack values or not. I always hone every weapon I get even if I am not keeping them...

[bjon045]

I'm a fan of Thieving in every game, but in G3 i don't get the point why I should take it.^^
IF thieving gives me a better chance for finding items....then its still strange I got it (or is 38 much in thieving?^^). And only for finding items i won't spent points in thieving :D
Greetings

Knockdown and murder are good skills. You can use the murder skill to quickly kill any npc in town (maybe for a quest or just kill a few before you begin a revolution) and it doesn't generate any hostiles. The knockdown skill is pretty useful as well if you can't be bothered waiting for night and you just want to loot the persons shop - it's good that the person won't even remember you attacked them after you use it.

You need impossible lockpicking or the spell open locks if you want to open the best chests in the game. If you are "role playing" a character that doesn't use magic then you would probably want to pick up the skill.

I played through as a hunter/thief and it was a lot of fun, I didn't have to use the crappy melee combat system much and used my bow when outside town and murder/knockdown when I was inside towns.

[Acleacius]

Actually isn't there a recipe for an Ancient Weapon that requires the Pure Magic Ore, somewhere in Varant, iirc?

[curious]

those recipies like out unique items aren't tied to a location, but a type of chest. and they are at the bottom of the list you must work your way through to get. it just works out that ishtar has like three of those specials chests and its usually one of the last places people go.

[FAR-ESTERN]

it was in a chest on a island neas Bakareshand it was Sword of the Ancestors