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mbuddha
February 26th, 2009, 09:54
I purchased the game from GamersGate, and I didn't get any kind of virtual manual. Is there a PDF available somewhere?

Also do I need the traps skill to disarm a trap? Perception helps detect I know that, but the description for the traps skill just says that you can set traps with it.

And one more: there is a chest in the mill cellar in the first area, it is locked and I can't have my PC - who has 6 in lockpick and hair pins in inventory - choose to unlock it. Is there no message if a specific key is required?
Curunír
February 26th, 2009, 11:02
Don't know about the manual, but:

1. There are two separate skills for setting traps (nature talent) and disarming traps (artisan(?) talent). Neither of the two help with the task of the other.

2. Yes, the chest in the mill requires a specific key. Generally, if you can't lockpick something that is locked (provided your character has the lockpicking talent), you are required to find a key or some other mechanism to open it.
Gorath
February 26th, 2009, 11:14
GamersGate should offer a manual for download. AFAIK that's standard. You should contact them and ask.


Could anybody with the disk version please check if any gimmicks like pdf manual or an English ruleset worth 30$ are on the disk? Thanks.
txa1265
February 26th, 2009, 12:50
My retail version came with full paper manual (and a pretty darn good one), but nothing on the DVD.
Grandor Dragon
February 26th, 2009, 14:43
It's a shame that it was not provided. Especially since people can, quite easily, find download links for the manual on the internet, and are thus temped to pirate it.
mute
February 26th, 2009, 17:58
I mailed the support about it. They are usually pretty quick with giving feedback in support matters. So i have no doubt that there will be one if they can get one.

Please mail them to about it! The more the merrier! :)
Dhruin
February 26th, 2009, 21:09
Yes, I'll join you. This sort of game really needs the manual.
txa1265
February 27th, 2009, 01:43
Yes, I'll join you. This sort of game really needs the manual.

Definitely - and the hardcopy manual is quite good.
ebarstad
February 27th, 2009, 06:20
There's no PDF with the D2D version either.
mute
February 27th, 2009, 09:16
I got this answer from the support (and i of course asked them about the reported download speed problem some of you had!). I just love the gamersgate.com support. It usually never ever takes more then a few hours to get a respond from them! And they do try to fix the problems to.

"Yes, the manual should show up shortly. We have had a lot of requests for it, and of course you need a manual for a game like Drakensang.

We are still tweaking the new downloader. We tested it before release, but its impossible to test all the circumstances. I can see from the amount of emails I get here to support that the new downloader isn't even close to having as much problems as the old one did, but there is still things to work out. If there is problems with slow downloads, I recommend getting in touch with us. The more information we get about the problems that occur, the more we can optimize the downloader."
Alrik Fassbauer
February 27th, 2009, 13:37
and of course you need a manual for a game like Drakensang

Looks like the message has arrived. ;)
Corwin
February 28th, 2009, 00:36
Actually, most of the ingame tutorial is taken directly from the manual!!
Arhu
February 28th, 2009, 01:16
Actually, most of the ingame tutorial is taken directly from the manual!!
Also, you can right-click on pretty much every bit of text and it shows you how it is calculated or what it means.

The German collector's edition came with a PDF manual of the basic TDE ruleset, hardcover edition, full color - almost 300 pages, so you should go ahead and demand a pdf manual of that too if you didn't get one. :) The nifty layout alone is worth it.

Although that wasn't the game manual I suppose and would probably not be included in a value edition ...
Cabezone
March 3rd, 2009, 00:08
The boxed game manual is pretty much worthless. Both it and the tooltips are too vague.
txa1265
March 3rd, 2009, 01:30
The boxed game manual is pretty much worthless. Both it and the tooltips are too vague.

Hmmm ... I was able to get enough context to figure out what was going on ... certainly better than 95% of the manuals I touch ...
Bladeheart
March 3rd, 2009, 14:40
Just got an e-mail from Gamersgate customer support in which was included the statement that the manual " ...should be available sometime tomorrow."

(Would also have posted on the offical forums if the registration had been completed; only 5 days now. Not as good as RPG Watch) ;)
Gorath
March 3rd, 2009, 14:52
Thanks for the info. :)

The official forum was down for a few days. Your registration probably got lost. The confirmation mail should be automatically sent within seconds.
Bladeheart
March 3rd, 2009, 17:40
Thanks for the info. :)

The official forum was down for a few days. Your registration probably got lost. The confirmation mail should be automatically sent within seconds.

Fair enough and thanks, but when I tried to register againI got an auto response stating that my name and e-mail address were already in use! But that s not an issue to be of concern here.
Bladeheart
March 3rd, 2009, 21:26
Gamersgate have released the pdf manual !!!
52 pages long, and at first glance seems to be one of the best game manuals I have seen. !!! :)
Gorath
March 3rd, 2009, 21:42
The German manual was very good. Of course it's impossible to squeeze the complete DSA ruleset into a few pages, but the manual did a good job to explain the basics.

Check the main page. You are famous.
wynams
March 3rd, 2009, 23:13
D2D lags behind ... google search not turning up anything either.

Anyone know where non GG downloaders can find manual?
Bladeheart
March 4th, 2009, 00:05
....... Check the main page. You are famous.

:blush: You do me too much honour Sir!
txa1265
March 4th, 2009, 01:18
This is great news!
Gorath
March 4th, 2009, 18:04
The English manual is based on the German manual, but a couple of chapters have been cut: reference lists for spells, weapon talents, important locations, etc. . Ca. 15-20 pages.
vanedor
March 4th, 2009, 19:28
That explains why I found that manuel rather... slim.
Alrik Fassbauer
March 4th, 2009, 23:09
I heard the manual of Baldiur's Gate was also "shortened" for the German market ?

So it ain't uncommon in the industry ...
Gorath
March 6th, 2009, 00:07
dtp tolerates it in the official forum, so I guess it's okay here too. Somebody uploaded the pdf:

manual (pdf) (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mdihyhg1t4y)
Dasale
March 6th, 2009, 13:27
The worse I've seen isn't the BG manual but the Fallout 1 manual, USA edition was a fat luxury edition with spire and the localized version a total cheap crap.

As my country won't even get the Drakensang collector edition (curse on them) I bet the manual will be a crap and perhaps even just a pdf. It's really a very very bad idea to not have a full manual for a system not know by most players.

EDIT: I couldn't use the link you provide. Well I suppose it's the same pdf than here (http://www.sendspace.com/file/l1u4rk):
Alrik Fassbauer
March 6th, 2009, 16:43
As my country won't even get the Drakensang collector edition

The real, limited Collector's Edition will be sold out long before now.

But I've seen a few specimens on ebay Germany. Expect a hefty price, though.

Drakensang Gold is ... well, a kind of updated version of Drakensang, with all of the fixes included and some bonus things.
Gorath
March 6th, 2009, 18:08
The real, limited Collector's Edition will be sold out long before now.

But I've seen a few specimens on ebay Germany. Expect a hefty price, though.
Both facts prove that dtp misestimated the demand and left money on the table.


Drakensang Gold is ... well, a kind of updated version of Drakensang, with all of the fixes included and some bonus things.
It's a measure to keep the price stable for a longer time by making the whole package seem more valuable. The target are new customers, not people who already have the game.
Dasale
March 7th, 2009, 00:45
The real, limited Collector's Edition will be sold out long before now.

But I've seen a few specimens on ebay Germany. Expect a hefty price, though.

Drakensang Gold is ... well, a kind of updated version of Drakensang, with all of the fixes included and some bonus things.
Ouch in no way I ever buy a game with a german language. I have seen description of the english collector edition, I haven't quoted it was limited but quoted how cool it was... making raging to learn few after that there will be none for my country.

I could have buy the collector english version but if it is also limited I'll have no chance.
Joolushkoo
March 9th, 2009, 23:17
Here is a link to a PDF manual in English I just found online. It looks like it's one that would come in the box. Hope this helps.

http://www.box.net/shared/upt0z1f0jj
txa1265
March 10th, 2009, 00:30
Here is a link to a PDF manual in English I just found online. It looks like it's one that would come in the box. Hope this helps.

http://www.box.net/shared/upt0z1f0jj

Yes - that is correct - and others have posted it.
Gorath
March 10th, 2009, 08:29
Thanks for posting the link. 2 are better than 1. ;)