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Gorath
August 23rd, 2009, 22:35
Piranha Bytes' lead designer Mike Hoge confirmed in a talk with the German print mag PC Games that a release candidate has been sent to publisher Koch Media before the GC. So the games is almost finished and on track for its Oct. 2nd release date. It will go into replication when the Koch Media QA is satisfied.
When asked about the next game Hoge said another Risen game would depend on the publisher. A new project would once again be a typical Piranha Bytes style RPG, in a fresh setting. Mr Hoge refused to give further details, but mentioned he would find a steampunk RPG attractive.
Don't read to much into this. It can mean everything. ;)
More information. (http://www.rpgwatch.com/show/newsbit?newsbit=12961)
northreign
August 23rd, 2009, 22:35
Woo! Soon it will have Risen.
TheMadGamer
August 23rd, 2009, 22:45
it's good to see this game in Q.A. with over a month to go. Hopefully they can squash many bugs.
Gorath
August 23rd, 2009, 22:51
They already have more than 2 months of beta behind them.
guenthar
August 23rd, 2009, 23:13
I hope they really go for a steampunk rpg next since there have been very few made and other then in the mmorpg genre none since Arcanum.
JDR13
August 23rd, 2009, 23:38
I hope they really go for a steampunk rpg next since there have been very few made and other then in the mmorpg genre none since Arcanum.

That would definitely be cool, especially since there's never been a steampunk crpg in first/third person 3D... at least none that I know of.
Wulf
August 23rd, 2009, 23:43
Yeah, but first things first, Risen needs to be an acceptable firmly established gaming success to reinstate PB's credibility - after that, steampunk, post apocalypse, planetary survival, the skys the limit!
Prime Junta
August 24th, 2009, 08:40
Steampunk cRPG in PB style? Sign me up.
Benedict
August 24th, 2009, 10:25
Gothic style steampunk?!?!

*drools*
Wulf
August 24th, 2009, 10:31
Steampunk + Sacred licence aquired from Ascaron + Deepsilver/Koch' Sacred 3 development.....what's going on?...where will it lead to?
JonNik
August 24th, 2009, 14:26
Well I haven't played a decent Steampunk game (not only RPG) since Arcanum, so
yeah Steampunk + PB sounds too good to be true (and it will most likely prove to be
exactly that)...
txa1265
August 24th, 2009, 14:54
I am also intrigued, but am not giving PB a pass until Risen actually shows that they have learned from G3.
Konjad
August 24th, 2009, 18:06
Anything but fantasy would be cool. I'm bored with fantasy, why nearly all games after Fallout have to be fantasy? Troika was my only hope... but it died :| (BioWare makes some sci-fi games but they sucks, unfortunately)
Prime Junta
August 24th, 2009, 19:52
Alpha Protocol much?
Konjad
August 24th, 2009, 20:35
Alpha Protocol much?

Judging by everything I heard it's going to be Mass Effect copy, so I'm not interested. Anyway we will see after release date.
Prime Junta
August 24th, 2009, 20:53
Judging by everything I heard it's going to be Mass Effect copy, so I'm not interested. Anyway we will see after release date.

Huh? Other than the game engine, it doesn't seem to have a great deal in common with it. No morality-o-meter, real choice of gameplay styles, real choice and consequence...
JDR13
August 24th, 2009, 21:42
Yeah, I don't see AP being anything like Mass Effect, and I don't understand how anyone would even get the impression that it was going to be an ME clone.
Maylander
August 25th, 2009, 09:52
Risen still looks like it's going to get released on time?

Mr. Burns: Eeeexcelleeent.
BillSeurer
August 25th, 2009, 23:06
I am also intrigued, but am not giving PB a pass until Risen actually shows that they have learned from G3.

Me too. Gothic 3 was in terrible technical shape for a long time and of course many of its inherent flaws were never fixed.
Dhruin
August 26th, 2009, 01:23
Me too. Gothic 3 was in terrible technical shape for a long time and of course many of its inherent flaws were never fixed.

You guys are too harsh. Two of the best games ever and at least they had ambitious ideas for Gothic 3, even if they couldn't pull it off. It's still a better track record than 80% of other studios.
txa1265
August 26th, 2009, 02:38
You guys are too harsh. Two of the best games ever and at least they had ambitious ideas for Gothic 3, even if they couldn't pull it off. It's still a better track record than 80% of other studios.

Not really - while I agree with G1/G2 assessment, and I do also love G3 but it isn't anywhere my 'top 10 RPG's' ... as I have said, I already pre-ordered Risen, and that is based on their history. If it is solid, they have me for whatever comes next ... but if it is crap, they have to rebuild trust.
Konjad
August 26th, 2009, 07:29
It's still a better track record than 80% of other studios.
It's your opinion, as for me this game is horrible, and I wish I'd never buy and play it.
Dhruin
August 26th, 2009, 09:14
Where do you rank G1 and G2? Assuming you rank it highly...like, maybe even amongst the best games ever made, how many other studios have two games rated so highly? None? A couple, at most?

And if you don't rank them highly, they don't have any reputation to recover, right?

That said, it's your $40 (or whatever) and you're entitled to be as bitter as you like.
DArtagnan
August 26th, 2009, 09:33
I have to agree with Dhruin here.

With a track record including 2 classic CRPGs - and one failed attempt at something really great, it's pretty harsh to have such a disposition.

Not that I would interfere with that, but in my mind - they deserve a lot of slack for such brilliant work.

I will likely go from enthusiastic about PB to neutral, if Risen turns out to be as commercial as I might fear.

I've been in denial about certain warning signs, though, and my faith in them is strong enough to maintain that denial until I've bought the game.
Konjad
August 26th, 2009, 11:13
Where do you rank G1 and G2? Assuming you rank it highly...like, maybe even amongst the best games ever made
Yeah, they are one of the best cRPGs out there for me.

BTW my bad, I read fast and undertood it wrong, I mean they did a great job with G1 and 2 but G3 is horrible. I read it like "Gothic 3 was better than 80% of other games", sorry :p
JDR13
August 26th, 2009, 11:21
I read it like "Gothic 3 was better than 80% of other games", sorry :p


I think Gothic 3, since the 1.70 patch, is easily better than 80+% of other RPGs.

I agree that it was terrible prior to the community patch though..
DArtagnan
August 26th, 2009, 11:26
Combat is still broken and it remains my single biggest issue with G3.

That said, it's very very good in other ways - but I consider the game broken for good.

I still enjoyed it immensely, though, and it's truly sad the community wasn't able to balance it properly.
Benedict
August 26th, 2009, 11:49
I'm going to go back to G3 in September I think, see how it plays with all the patches and slightly lowered expectations.

Not sure whether or not to just liberate the villages and be done with it, my completist instincts argue against doing that till I've done all the quests possible but it does seem to detract from the narrative a bit trying to game the rules.
DArtagnan
August 26th, 2009, 11:52
I'm going to go back to G3 in September I think, see how it plays with all the patches and slightly lowered expectations.

Not sure whether or not to just liberate the villages and be done with it, my completist instincts argue against doing that till I've done all the quests possible but it does seem to detract from the narrative a bit trying to game the rules.

My advice: don't go dual-wield.
Prime Junta
August 26th, 2009, 12:07
I'm going to go back to G3 in September I think, see how it plays with all the patches and slightly lowered expectations.

Not sure whether or not to just liberate the villages and be done with it, my completist instincts argue against doing that till I've done all the quests possible but it does seem to detract from the narrative a bit trying to game the rules.

With AB at least, liberating cities is t3h h4rd. IOW, if you want to do it at all without screaming in frustration and breaking things, it's probably best to do all the quests possible before starting.

That's one thing I like about AB -- it makes for a much more natural progression to the game; you start out as an explorer doing simple odd jobs for people, evolve into a troubleshooter doing tougher and/or less palatable odd jobs for people, and eventually end up a mover and shaker who can actually affect the balance of the whole game world. But you can't go straight from explorer to mover and shaker, like with the regular balancing -- the game will kill you very dead if you try.
JonNik
August 26th, 2009, 12:23
My advice: don't go dual-wield.

Actually in my Opinion Two Handers suck too. The Sword and shield thing works very
well though (Paladin Armor + Rune shield + sword of the ancestors is a very very
nice combination).
txa1265
August 26th, 2009, 13:16
I think Gothic 3, since the 1.70 patch, is easily better than 80+% of other RPGs.

I agree that it was terrible prior to the community patch though..

Which gets back to my point - even as fans of G3 and ardent PB supporters, we all tend to agree that the G3 that THEY delivered and patched was still a fairly broken and buggy mess of a game.