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Dhruin January 16th, 2007 23:58

ES4: Oblivion - Main Quest Walkthrough @ GameBanshee
 
GameBanshee has added to their Oblivion walkthrough with coverage of the main quest to complement their exisiting Factions info.
More information.

Corwin January 16th, 2007 23:58

Strange, I thought Oblivion contained its own inbuilt walkthru!! :rolleyes:

txa1265 January 17th, 2007 01:54

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Originally Posted by Corwin (Post 15862)
Strange, I thought Oblivion contained its own inbuilt walkthru!! :rolleyes:

This time I don't know if I will even touch the main quest - certainly not close to the best part …

ToddMcF2002 January 17th, 2007 02:09

Going back in eh? Me too - but not without OBSCURO!!! Did you install it? Do try.

I thought the main quest was just fine. Sure - repetitive but enough to keep going. I also like that island part quite a bit.

Dr. A January 17th, 2007 03:22

The closing of the gates made me stop playing - talk about boring repetition. But the main quest wasn't too bad.

txa1265 January 17th, 2007 04:28

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Originally Posted by ToddMcF2002 (Post 15889)
Going back in eh? Me too - but not without OBSCURO!!! Did you install it? Do try.

I thought the main quest was just fine. Sure - repetitive but enough to keep going. I also like that island part quite a bit.

I was going to 'mod up', but decided to do a formal review of Knights of the Nine, so it is Plain Vanilla Oblivion once again for me …

Corwin January 17th, 2007 13:08

You have my deepest condolences; I find the vanilla unplayable!!

Maylander January 17th, 2007 13:29

The main quest itself is actually decent, but it doesn't fit in the kind of game Oblivion is: "The demons are invading! You must save the world! .. Or, you can walk around and enjoy the view for as long as you want.. ". All in all I still think the main quest is a step up from Morrowind though.

Corwin January 17th, 2007 13:37

MW had a main quest? After playing it for 100+ hours, I never really found it!! :)

txa1265 January 17th, 2007 14:07

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Originally Posted by Corwin (Post 15953)
You have my deepest condolences; I find the vanilla unplayable!!

Thing is - if I start stacking on mods to make the game play more like it would have if designed as a PC RPG, then I will have a hard time knowing where the added content is.

BillSeurer January 17th, 2007 14:58

The game-as-shipped is certainly completely playable and works fine. Some people find it not to their tastes and for some weird reason feel they must tell everything that it is therefore unplayable, broken, etc. This anti-fanboyism puzzles me just as much as those who go the opposite and fanboy gloss over real flaws in games.

The beautiful thing about something like Oblivion is that people CAN tweak it to their liking as evidenced by all the mods out there. Compare this to Gothic3 where you are stuck with what they provide whether you like it or not.

txa1265 January 17th, 2007 15:52

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Originally Posted by BillSeurer (Post 15992)
The game-as-shipped is certainly completely playable and works fine. Some people find it not to their tastes and for some weird reason feel they must tell everything that it is therefore unplayable, broken, etc.

Corwin stipulated with 'I find' - so it is really just his opinion that he can't stand playing the game without modifications.

It is reasonable for PC gamers to pick at the obvious console roots, in my opinion - imagine if a game came out now that had a first-person action view that only allowed you to move with the arrow keys? It would get eviscerated. When you enter a PC game and go to configure the controls and are shows items about the 'right stick' and 'left stick' … that is not good, and deserves criticism. Deus Ex Invisible War got nailed for having ini files with 'change this to 1 if on PC' left in there - which was a problem since those things were left at the XBOX settings when shipped. Oblivion gets extra attention since most of the gaming media are drooling all over the thing as the picture of perfection.

cutterjohn January 17th, 2007 15:58

Isn't a walkthrough for Oblivion sort of an oxymoron? After all, I mean how much more help would ahm, certain types of people, need other than the 10 trillion popups, quest gps, fast travel, etc. ?

Acleacius January 17th, 2007 18:50

BillSeurer well I guess it good you are such a forgiving PC (console?) gamer.
Calling bad game design decisions bad is not anitfanboyism, not sure where your getting your analogy from since most people talk about specific issues.

Most of these issues are based in substandard console features which you seem perfectly happy with, unless I misunderstand you.
So honesty you seem like your really just making ad homein attacks since you haven't given examples.

If you are confortable with the giant menus, constant popup windows and the ablity to complete all quest and master all guilds at level 1, could you please let me know where you get this standard from, I mean what games have you been playing? :)

VPeric January 17th, 2007 19:35

How is a walkthrough notable enough to be "in the news", unless it's perhaps the first one out? There are loads of great walkthroughs on GameFAQs, but they are never in the news. =\

BillSeurer January 17th, 2007 20:34

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Originally Posted by Acleacius (Post 16026)
BillSeurer well I guess it good you are such a forgiving PC (console?) gamer.

I love it when someone starts yelling "ad hominem attack!" (see below) just after making an ad hominem attack (see above). Calling a PC gamer a "console" gamer is like calling a conservative Republican a "liberal".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acleacius (Post 16026)
Calling bad game design decisions bad is not anitfanboyism, not sure where your getting your analogy from since most people talk about specific issues.

Face it, almost all of the attacks on Oblivion are basically "It sucks!" or "It's totally broken!" (some even prefaced with "I think …") without giving any details other than personal preference. I prefer some things in Oblivion otherwise but I don't think the game is broken because of that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acleacius (Post 16026)
Most of these issues are based in substandard console features which you seem perfectly happy with, unless I misunderstand you.
So honesty you seem like your really just making ad homein attacks since you haven't given examples.

How am I to give examples? You ( I assume) are the one claiming that Oblivion is bad/broken/crap/whatever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acleacius (Post 16026)
If you are confortable with the giant menus, constant popup windows and the ablity to complete all quest and master all guilds at level 1, could you please let me know where you get this standard from, I mean what games have you been playing? :)

Wow. So the font size they choose makes the game broken? And what constant popup windows are so bugging to you and compared to what? So what if you can complete everything at level 1, you can probably do that in Gothic 3 too (someone claimed to have killed all the orcs without levelling IIRC) and it doesn't even scale encounters. It was a reasonable design decision they made to scale encounters and if you don't like it you can load a mod to "fix" it.

There's a standard for CRPGs? Please, do tell.

Sheesh. Do I have to show my PC Gamer Union Card to participate without having my credentials called into question? I have played almost every major (and many minor) CRPG that has come out since 1982 when I bought my first PC and played some before that on Apples.

Corwin January 18th, 2007 00:48

Hey, let's not get into any flame wars here. We can agree to disagree on some issues. As I've said many times, once modded to get rid of things which annoy ME, (mainly the console leftovers), I enjoyed the game for what it was, but quickly grew bored with it. I have never said it was broken, just unplayable in its original state as I couldn't stand the font, controls, etc, etc which have already been mentioned. If it's an rpg at all (different debate), it's an rpg SUPER-lite!!

txa1265 January 18th, 2007 02:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corwin (Post 16076)
Hey, let's not get into any flame wars here.!

I like playing a Fire Mage … so I already get into PLENTY of flame wars ;)

Corwin January 18th, 2007 02:32

Hahaha, well, yes, that's the only flame wars I enjoy too!! :biggrin:

Dr. A January 18th, 2007 03:00

Hey, aren't there plans to recreate Morrowind with the Oblivion CS? That would be cool, i think…


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