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Dhruin October 10th, 2011 19:34

Frayed Knights - Review @ Digitally Downloaded
 
Digitally Downloaded let us know they have reviewed Frayed Knights, with a score of 4/5:
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Your party consists of four fixed members. Arianna, dainty warrior half elf with a short temper, Dirk, a clumsy lowbrow thief, Ben, a timid priest only very recently joined after a spell in herbalism, and a ditsy sorceress named Chloe who takes a little too much pleasure in pyromania spells. This is where the writing of this game really shines. It got to a point that even though the gameplay itself was excellent; I kept playing into the wee hours of the morning for the dialogue. So much fun is had here with not only the characters interacting in the most hilarious, fascinating and memorable ways, but with all the fun poked at RPGs I mentioned earlier. It throws a lot of curveballs around RPG convention. When asked to check out the rat problem in Farmer Brown’s basement, Dirk proclaims “not another kill the rats in the basement quest!” I actually laughed out loud. (How many games have actually made you laugh vocally? And that’s perhaps the weakest gag.) The devs took my expectations of the quest and turned it into exactly what I had not suspected, with some really good results.
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Demiath October 10th, 2011 19:34

Ah, finally some love for the controversial humor which still seems to a major obstacle to getting newcomers interested in the game. Timing appears to be an issue here, too, since a lot of people were for some reason put off by the recently released Dungeons of Dredmor's humor and thus want nothing to do with anything that is remotely similar in that respect.

Thaurin October 10th, 2011 20:08

What?? The fourth-wall-breaking, four nerds in a D&D game, anti-hero humour is, like, the best part of the whole thing! There are people that don't like it for THAT??

Alrik Fassbauer October 10th, 2011 20:41

Unbelievable. Some people rather prefer "dark & gritty" or what ?

GhanBuriGhan October 10th, 2011 21:05

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Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer (Post 1061097295)
Unbelievable. Some people rather prefer "dark & gritty" or what ?

Yeah, there is that… :evil:

On the other hand, way to jump to conclusions, Alrik… ;)

I have to say I was very sceptical regarding the humor. I don't usually like satire so much (at least not of things that are important to me ;) ), never really got into Pratchett much, and HATED the various attempts to ridicule my holy Lord of the Rings (On the other hand, I always did like Douglas Adams).
I actually bought it inspite of the humor, because it seemed a pretty solid (indie!) RPG underneath (which it is). I am happy to say though, that I ended up loving the humor so far, much to my surprise. I guess it's that P&P gaming humor that he managed to capture, and actually its not as in your face and overbearing as I had concluded from the screens. It still manages to feel like an adventure, regardless. I really like the game. Gonna play it right now, actually. The Tower of Almost Certain Death awaits! Again! And this time I am armed with poetry!

RampantCoyote October 10th, 2011 21:06

They don't break the third wall THAT much. :) Though it does seem that while it might dissuade some people from even trying it, the vast majority who do find themselves liking it or at least deciding that it's "not that bad." I tried to avoid going full-on obnoxious with the tongue-in-cheek. I prefer the kinds of comedy that are more character and plot based, and the best comedy gets downright serious at times.

But I learned in a previous game that some folks (particularly a couple of thick-witted reviewers who are thankfully no longer reviewing games so far as I can tell) just don't get anything remotely "subtle," and if you don't make the humor obvious early on, they'll think you are trying to do serious poorly and failing at it.

And having some spells like "Power Word: Defenestrate" or a "Quarterstaff of Nad-Whacking" - while pretty low humor - were sometimes just too much fun to leave aside. And when Kevin and I were bouncing ideas off each other about the Rats of Nom quest, I was literally laughing out loud. I hope some of the quests in the later games work on that same level.

basharran October 10th, 2011 21:13

I've played the demo and was also gniffling at some of the banter. Bit reminded me of Baldur's gate 2 and how the party would chit chat away, only that in FN it seems to be more humoristic :)

GhanBuriGhan October 10th, 2011 23:09

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Originally Posted by RampantCoyote (Post 1061097301)
"Quarterstaff of Nad-Whacking"

Speaking of which - can anybody explain a poor non-native speaker what that means? Even google couldn't help me…

DeepO October 10th, 2011 23:24

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Originally Posted by GhanBuriGhan (Post 1061097342)
Speaking of which - can anybody explain a poor non-native speaker what that means? Even google couldn't help me…

Quarterstaff of Testicle Decimation

Motoki October 10th, 2011 23:27

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Originally Posted by GhanBuriGhan (Post 1061097342)
Speaking of which - can anybody explain a poor non-native speaker what that means? Even google couldn't help me…

nads is short for gonads. It's slang for testicles. Basically means the staff is for smacking someone in the crotch.

I checked Google and the 4th result brought up, after all the hair removal products :p, was urban dictionary which did seem to accurately define it. Urban dictionary is usually a good spot to check for slang terms.

Ford Taurus October 10th, 2011 23:47

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Originally Posted by DeepO (Post 1061097348)
Quarterstaff of Testicle Decimation

I think I might even like this one better…

We used to pass around a huge glass cup full of adult beverage at our PnP games back in the day. It was known as the Chalice of Eternal Inebriation.

Also, 'Power Word: Defenestrate' is full of win. Might have to pick this game up now.

GhanBuriGhan October 10th, 2011 23:51

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Originally Posted by Motoki (Post 1061097351)
nads is short for gonads. It's slang for testicles. Basically means the staff is for smacking someone in the crotch.

I checked Google and the 4th result brought up, after all the hair removal products :p, was urban dictionary which did seem to accurately define it. Urban dictionary is usually a good spot to check for slang terms.

I get only Frayed Knights links :p Must be the stupid localized Google page. Thanks for improving my language skills, mates ;)

Raldor October 11th, 2011 06:13

I have been waiting years for another 1st person, turn based, party rpg. I absolutely love that type of game, and I'm always watching for a new one. Also, I buy almost any game that even hints at being a turn based rpg, because I miss the old style games so much.

Unfortunately I'll be passing on Frayed Knights. I want to like the game, but I can't get past those character portraits.

I can live with humor in most genres. But most genres don't get just 1 game released every 10 years. To be honest, I'm pretty annoyed that a game like this FINALLY comes along, and it's made to look stupid on purpose.

I am not a graphics snob by any stretch. I can live with graphics that are 10 plus years behind the times. In fact, the dungeon and the monsters look good to me. But in this type of game, it's all about your party, and I don't think I can make myself care about leveling up this goofy bunch.

I'm going on the assumption that you are stuck with the 4 that I see in all the screenshots, so correct me if I'm wrong.

Corwin October 11th, 2011 06:27

If those portraits keep you from playing this fantastic game, then you're the loser!!

skavenhorde October 11th, 2011 07:00

RPG fans always amaze me. Ever single day on this forum I read something absolutely amazing. Sometimes it's a good kind of amazement and most of the time it's a WTF kind. Either way it's entertaining.

SonOfCapiz October 11th, 2011 07:40

I think I can guess which type of amazing skavenhorde just read…

Love the humor in FK. Still pestering my sister to get me a copy though, since the demo really left me wanting

Raldor October 11th, 2011 14:20

Yeah, I get it that I'm the loser and you guys are amazed and think WTF. I didn't really expect anything different.

But you don't say whether it's because you like the characters in this game, or whether you just don't care at all what characters you play as.

For example, would you still play the game if you were playing as the four Teletubbies? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletubby (for those of you blessed with not knowing what that is)

I'm asking an extreme example not to be a smartass, or to equate Frayed Knights with Teletubbies. I use that example so that I can see whether you actually care as little about such a "trivial" thing as you seem to.

If you actually like the party in Frayed Knights, that's a different story, and of course you would like the game. But if you just don't care, then you and I really do value this type of game differently.

Alrik Fassbauer October 11th, 2011 14:27

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Originally Posted by Raldor (Post 1061097438)
I want to like the game, but I can't get past those character portraits.

At least they are much, much better than the character portraits of some of the player characters from the "Realms Of Arcania" trilogy …

GhanBuriGhan October 11th, 2011 14:31

I find that the portraits fit the characters in the party and the tongue in cheek style of the game (This is less true for other parts of the Graphics). Although the characters are comedic, I find myself caring quite a bit for them. It's a bit early to say, but I think They will end up as one of the more memorable parties I have played. This game is not just silly - it's a satiric adventure, enjoyable for both aspects. But if you can't stand the style, well there is not much we can say. However, since you say you like this style of game so much, I would recommend to take at least a few minutes with the demo (if you haven't), maybe you'll be surprised, like I was.

Raldor October 11th, 2011 15:28

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Originally Posted by GhanBuriGhan (Post 1061097514)
However, since you say you like this style of game so much, I would recommend to take at least a few minutes with the demo (if you haven't), maybe you'll be surprised, like I was.

That's fair enough. I'll at least try the demo.


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