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Zloth March 4th, 2012 06:07

No rest for the weary?
 
I've noticed for the past day or two that resting isn't giving me the 'rested' or 'well rested' bonus, even if I sleep in a house I own for 8+ hours. Anyone know what might be up with that?

Menigal March 4th, 2012 10:03

Not a werewolf, are you?

On another character I never seemed to get the rested/well-rested messages, but it still showed up on the status screen. That was several patches ago, though.

Possibly related, I've never once seen my spouse sleep or received the bonus you're supposed to get from that, so there could still be some weird sleep-related bugs kicking around. Maybe the patch a few days ago introduced some new ones.

Zloth March 4th, 2012 16:39

Well that's encouraging - I was getting worried that something had started to corrupt this character.

We get a bonus for having a spouse? They aren't just for cooking, sweeping up, and creating alternate characters? Who'da thunk it! <evil grin>

BlackHarmo March 5th, 2012 10:39

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Originally Posted by Zloth (Post 1061130658)
Well that's encouraging - I was getting worried that something had started to corrupt this character.

We get a bonus for having a spouse? They aren't just for cooking, sweeping up, and creating alternate characters? Who'da thunk it! <evil grin>

Yep, it's even called "lover's comfort" (ingame, no kidding), and it gives you a 15% exp bonus for sleeping in the conjugal bed. Spouses also set up merchant stores, and share the profit with your character.

Menigal March 5th, 2012 11:25

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Originally Posted by BlackHarmo (Post 1061130726)
Spouses also set up merchant stores, and share the profit with your character.

That's actually the most useful bit; having a 24 hour merchant right in your home.

BlackHarmo March 5th, 2012 12:06

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Originally Posted by Menigal (Post 1061130730)
That's actually the most useful bit; having a 24 hour merchant right in your home.

Indeed, as the "normal" experience gain is already quite (too, imho) generous in this game.

Thrasher March 5th, 2012 20:36

Yeah, I don't get why anyone would want the benefit from sleeping. One levels up fast enough in this game, and once one gets to level 20 or so, everything becomes too easy, I think… You don't need the uber levels and associated spells and perks.

So my characters are all sleep-deprived insomniacs.

BTW, are the stores provided by spouses any good? I've found the apparel store in Solitude to be excellent for enchanted jewelry, and once you complete one the Windhelm thief reputation quest, the special merchant there always has the best weapons.

EDIT: Whoops! That should be Windhelm for the second.

BlackHarmo March 6th, 2012 08:42

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Originally Posted by Thrasher (Post 1061130800)
Yeah, I don't get why anyone would want the benefit from sleeping. One levels up fast enough in this game, and once one gets to level 20 or so, everything becomes too easy, I thinků You don't need the uber levels and associated spells and perks.

Seconded. There are a number of user-made mods to slow down the xp gain/levelling up though. From the slimplest "let's cut xp gain in half", or so, to a bit more subtle ones which doesn't really affect your character's growth in the beginning (first 10 levels, I'd say) but slow down progression later on, and/or re balance the gain from specific skills like smithing for example.

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So my characters are all sleep-deprived insomniacs.
LOL :biggrin: I hear you, especially since this bonus also stacks with the similar benefit from the mage/thief/warrior stones, which I now avoid like the plague.

I havn't verified this myself, but I also read that if you're a werewolf you do not benefit from this lover's comfort bonus though. I guess that she/he sleeps elsewhere… what a bummer for conjugal life! :) But I digress…

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BTW, are the stores provided by spouses any good? I've found the apparel store in Solitude to be excellent for enchanted jewelry, and once you complete one the Solitude thief reputation quest, the special merchant there always has the best weapons.
There isn't specialized stores based on which spouse you marry (that could be a decent idea for a mod, methinks). Basically, the inventory of spouses' stores is more or less on par with those of merchants like Riverwood or Belethor's shops, randomized once a day (I think) and not particularly specialized. At one time they may have magical weapons, another time more jewelry, and almost never any new spell books (in my experience). The cumulative 100 gold of sell profits is actually useful when you marry early in the game, much less so later on obviously.

Funnily, your spouse will not offer you any discount, their price being evaluated on your speech skill (and speech perks) as for any other merchant.

To expand upon what Menigal already said, the biggest advantage of spouses is when they are also your follower : that way you get a merchant companion 24/7, whom you can even sell/buy from in the very depth of a dwemer ruin.

Another, perhaps overlooked advantage, comes from spouses who already have their own homes, like Uthgerd, Camilla, etc. Again, it's most beneficiary to the player if your character marry early on in the game, when money isn't overflowing yet, as you can then choose to move in there with her rather than buying a house AND items that you place inside their house shoudn't risk disappearing as there is no content resetting inside their house.

TheMadGamer March 13th, 2012 20:05

I wondered the same thing for a while. Then one time a 'tip' came up while loading the game that explained if you're a warewolf you do not get the rested bonus. That's at least one explanation of why you are not getting the rested bonus.

Zloth March 14th, 2012 02:18

She's NOT a werewolf! Her new found "friends" offered to let her become one and she turned right around and left them cold.

The 'well rested' bonus did kick in once yesterday then stopped again. I think I rested at Windhold's inn when I got the bonus but my own Breezehome didn't do it. <shrug>

Thrasher March 14th, 2012 02:26

Denial is a symptom of the disease, ya know. ;)

Zloth March 17th, 2012 01:04

NO IT ISN'… errrr… I mean, yes it is! I mean… no… AAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!! (Zloth transforms into a vicious were-sloth! Actually more viscus that vicious, really, as he lies down to take a nap.)


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