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Dhruin May 2nd, 2012 00:44

Skyrim - Dawnguard Announced
 
Disappointingly, Bethsoft's reveal about the first Skyrim DLC is a single image and the title - Dawnguard (as we thought from months back when one of our readers spotted Dawnguard as a new trademark). Apparently the real information will come during E3. It will be released on X360 first, with other platforms after the 1-month exclusivity expires.
More information.

joxer May 2nd, 2012 00:44

DLC, eh?
Nice.
No words about a patch that will address those 500 bugs fan patch didn't fix? :)

Daroou May 2nd, 2012 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061141766)
DLC, eh?
Nice.
No words about a patch that will address those 500 bugs fan patch didn't fix? :)

Yeah seems to me that lots of patching is more in demand than this DLC. I guess get a small patch on this release, but nothing like what Obsidian did for their DLC releases.

jhwisner May 2nd, 2012 01:48

I'm starting to think the "Dawn" in "Dawnguard" might more likely be related generally to the Dawn Era (and more specifically to the secrets of power and artifacts associated with it - possibly things like the Eye of Magnus.) Between the Falmer/Snow-prince, the Thalmor, and some of the quest lines of Skyrim I think there's good reason to beleive it may refer to the Dawn Era and the artifice and mysticism associated with Magnus and/or Lorkhan.

The Thalmor claim to have rediscovered magicks from the Dawn Era (they credit their accomplishments in that area with ending the Void Nights - though their detractors allege their experiments may very well have caused it in the first place.) The Snow Prince was said to have weilded a spear and donned armor which used/were made with mysterious and previously unheard of magics (maybe Dawn Magic or Dwemer Tonal Architecture - which sounds like it gets pretty close to godly stuff by the time they're fiddling with the Heart of Lorkhan.) There's also

Spoiler – Has to do with mage guild quests


It's harder to speculate what Dawnguard specifically might be (an organization, a fortress, or wibble). Yeah maybe it's somehow related to Dawnstar possibly instead of the dawn-era, the machinations of the Thalmor, dawn-magics, etc. That's probably just as likely, but I don't find that alone to be nearly as interesting as the prospect of them dealing with a subject that touches on the machinations of the Thalmor, the aims of the Psijiic Order, and a kind of power whose implications may have sparked the war that eventually lead the Falmer to their current sad state.

sakichop May 2nd, 2012 02:20

Xbox exclusives really shows you what Microsoft thinks about pc gaming. What's even more telling is when they make their own games xbox exclusive.

Maybe they forgot that they also made windows.

Zloth May 2nd, 2012 02:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061141766)
DLC, eh?
Nice.
No words about a patch that will address those 500 bugs fan patch didn't fix? :)

Go get the Unofficial Patch. It fixes far more than Bethesda would ever have time to fix.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakichop
Xbox exclusives really shows you what Microsoft thinks about pc gaming.

Why are you taking this personally? It's just business. Microsoft can get more money from convincing PS3 owners to buy an XBox. If there were a Windows exclusive, what would that get them? Most people already own Windows. They might get people to buy better hardware but that doesn't help Microsoft at all.

If you want to convince somebody to get a PC exclusive, try and get NVIDIA and ATI/AMD to team up and pay for one. They would be the ones that might actually stand to gain from a deal like that. (It could be a bit tricky, though, with them making video technology for the consoles as well.)

Carnifex May 2nd, 2012 06:17

Yeah, giving it to a console for a month in advance is enough to make me boycott it. Thankfully, I have better games to play.


-Carn

Arkadia7 May 2nd, 2012 06:49

Heck, at this point I'm surprised the PC is being thought of at all by the major rpg developers, wouldn't be surprised to see them forgo a pc version completely in the future. Speaking as a PC gamer its all about the thriving indie scene for rpgs at the moment, at least that is where all my interest lies for my next rpgs. An updated version of Baldur's Gate, Grim Dawn, Wasteland 2, Eschalon Book 3 etc, its an exciting time.

sakichop May 2nd, 2012 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zloth (Post 1061141788)
Go get the Unofficial Patch. It fixes far more than Bethesda would ever have time to fix.


Why are you taking this personally? It's just business. Microsoft can get more money from convincing PS3 owners to buy an XBox. If there were a Windows exclusive, what would that get them? Most people already own Windows. They might get people to buy better hardware but that doesn't help Microsoft at all.

If you want to convince somebody to get a PC exclusive, try and get NVIDIA and ATI/AMD to team up and pay for one. They would be the ones that might actually stand to gain from a deal like that. (It could be a bit tricky, though, with them making video technology for the consoles as well.)

I don't take it personally at all. Not sure where you got that from. I'm also fully aware of why microsoft would do it.

The problem is there is no competition for microsoft in the os market. Microsoft has zero incentive to make gaming any better on windows as they would much rather have an xbox game sell than a pc game.

I don't want more pc exclusives either. Exclusives are bad for the consumer, someone is always excluded.

guenthar May 2nd, 2012 08:54

Arkadia7: Why would they give up the second highest sales of the 3 platforms. I have been keeping track of game sales and usually the PC outperforms the PS3 in sales on multiplatform titles. The sales don't even count digital downloads and doesn't usually take into account outside of of a couple months after the release which the PC usually does better in then other platforms. Skyrim doesn't show that high of sales for the PC which is probably because of the requirement of Steamworks which would drive more sales then normal towards Steam.

Arundor May 2nd, 2012 10:08

Some users at the Bethesda forum discovered that the data files in the latest patch contained some content tagged as DLC01. Specifically, animations labelled "crossbow", "snow elf prince", new vampire feeding animations, and something unknown called "RF".

Is Bethesda the type to intentionally put red herrings in their data files to confuse us? I'm not sure. If it's true, I'm pleased that it indicates the DLC will have crossbows.

More details in the Bethesda forum if you want you want to read it: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/133…#entry20684799

TheSisko May 2nd, 2012 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkadia7 (Post 1061141828)
Heck, at this point I'm surprised the PC is being thought of at all by the major rpg developers, wouldn't be surprised to see them forgo a pc version completely in the future.

Could have something to do with the PC version of Skyrim selling "several million copies" according to Bethesda. Maybe that's not enough to support it in your opinion…

Dhruin May 2nd, 2012 11:21

Microsoft paid for exclusivity (for a whole month). Bethsoft get to have MS' money — and then everyone else will just buy it a few weeks later. It's not rocket science.

DArtagnan May 2nd, 2012 11:48

Not from a business point of view, anyway.

Couchpotato May 2nd, 2012 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkadia7 (Post 1061141828)
Heck, at this point I'm surprised the PC is being thought of at all by the major rpg developers, wouldn't be surprised to see them forgo a pc version completely in the future. Speaking as a PC gamer its all about the thriving indie scene for rpgs at the moment, at least that is where all my interest lies for my next rpgs. An updated version of Baldur's Gate, Grim Dawn, Wasteland 2, Eschalon Book 3 etc, its an exciting time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSisko (Post 1061141846)
Could have something to do with the PC version of Skyrim selling "several million copies" according to Bethesda. Maybe that's not enough to support it in your opinion…

Ask Crytek about there bitching about piracy when both there games on the pc have sold 3 million. Developers and publishers suffer from the syndrome known as more. Not every game will be the holy grail that COD is apparently. That series make billions.

Still it's just the usual Microsoft being dicks and paying publishers millions for early access to dlc first that's all. Nothing new.

GothicGothicness May 2nd, 2012 12:32

meanwhile Sony is making huge losses and is in serious danger of going under…… if that happens… what a huge win for MS that would be.

Couchpotato May 2nd, 2012 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by GothicGothicness (Post 1061141861)
meanwhile Sony is making huge losses and is in serious danger of going under…… if that happens… what a huge win for MS that would be.

Hopefully they don't then there would be no competition for Microsoft unless you count Nintendo. Sony is losing money due to there high priced electronics not selling. You also have to consider there various poor decisions this generation.

wolfing May 2nd, 2012 12:52

That reminds me I should play Skyrim one of these days. Bought it in like December, but then got other games and so far I think I played it for like 8 hours total :)

Igor May 2nd, 2012 13:04

That reminds me of angry mob not supporting high tier of business that was developed for diablo III, trough I am glad that here does not apply even if one practice evolve to another and I am sure in the future will be made an exception.

Aside so far not enough information to convince that is good dlc and worth to be waited.

Thaurin May 2nd, 2012 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakichop (Post 1061141786)
Xbox exclusives really shows you what Microsoft thinks about pc gaming. What's even more telling is when they make their own games xbox exclusive.

Maybe they forgot that they also made windows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnifex (Post 1061141826)
Yeah, giving it to a console for a month in advance is enough to make me boycott it. Thankfully, I have better games to play.

Already at post #5, that's sooner than I expected. :) I mostly clicked this article for entertainment value, because I knew people would start bitching about this. Totally worth it!


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