Project Eternity - Update #10, Interview
 

Chris Avellone posts Project Eternity Update #10, which is primarily a video showing his messy desk, celebrating his birthday and following up on the characterisation blog from a few days back:
There's also a piece of concept art.
Over at Penny Arcade, there's an interview with producer Adam Brennecke. There's not a lot of new revelations, though here he talks about the first screenshot:
More information.

Tough to watch. It's like he's on a boat or something. I started to get seasick.

Compare the concept on Kickstarter with the concept on PAR. 'twas the result of a lenghty, now closed forum discussion. :D

I do like that the female character in the concept art is wearing what looks like actually believable platemail. Who would have ever thought that the pinnacle of armored protection might not be metal thong.

Cadegund used to have a real boobplate. They changed it after "feedbacks".

You can see that version of the concept art on the PA report on Project Eternity.

Yes because we all know women don't have boobs that come in different sizes.:) There just going for realism now.

Though boob plates were needed for larger cup sizes. Sadly there weren't many big breasted amazons in armor in reality.

Reality-



Fantasy-

Yeah - looks more like the real thing:


Obviously - as plate has to be somewhat well fitted in certain areas so as to disribute weight as effectively as possible and avoid chaffing - a female-tailored plate would still probably have some distinctly feminine characteristics depending on who it was made for.

So… No armored Dolly Parton?
What kind of RPG is that? Sacrilege!

;)

In reality, there was not that many women in armour. That is what immersion is such a flimsy concept. From the moment, you accept the idea of women in armour in medieval like worlds, why draw a red line for what women should sport? In medieval times, few to none uni gender clothes. But those who could afford wanted distinctive armours.

Actually, there was more daily unisex clothing in medieval than in the 18th or 19th century. The more and more distinct style in clothing is a trend starting with Renaissance.

Yes we went from wool and leather to perfume and laces. What an improvement.

There a few notable female knights and warriors but your right they were few. I was mostly taking a crack at people bothered with the original character design. They must have been many since they changed it.

Nope

They had the Project Director on their side. He's more on the historical side of things.

Meh I don't see there as being a red-line, I just appreciate it when I see a game that doesn't give characters armor that appears designed to deflect blows towards the center of the chest and to crack the wearer's sternum when they fall.

but you're ok that those same characters can double jump in mid-air and cast fireballs when they land, in full plate?

You really can't take sarcasm can you?:)

Well in his defense it's a game. Your supposed to do things you cant do in reality.

My sarcasm detector did not ring. ;)
From that perspective we could also vote for a Final Fantasy Look. That would be an interesting discussion thread on the official forums. :biggrin:

But there is a point in it. Let's keep it that way: Boob plates give games a certain touch that sometimes and for some people isn't appreciated.

I can agree with that. Boob plates have been a rule in fantasy for years and there not going away any time soon. The concept art still looks good anyway.

I don't feel like going into all the sexism articles that seem abundant about games lately. That's another can of worms.:)

my point is, why make for boring looking armor just because they're more 'realistic' in a fantasy game. If it was a medieval simulation game, I'd be all for it, but in a fantasy game, I'm ok with boob armors and chainmail bikinis that protect more than a full body leather armor.

I like boobplates, or the first part anyway. :D

I draw the line at chainmail bikinis, thats just ridicilous.
:-/

C

I can only speak for myself, but I was tired e.g. by Snowblind's urgent attempts to make all heroines in the Champions games look like Pamela Anderson in Fantasy-Baywatch. They did the same in Dark Alliance, too. It bores me to death, seeing nearly undressed booby girls running through an elsewise stupid game. One could think, the money spared from "meaning" was put into atomic boobs and that they are always presented in a right shape.

Yes, you don't have to play it, but in this case Obsidian wants the money before the game is reviewed and is explicitly asking for feedback. So I can understand that there are people reasoning against if they get the chance and somebody is listening.

I don't know if advocates of booby plates would also welcome Mick-Jagger-like pants with bucklings or even more explicit shape. My guess would be it would turn into another sexualism / morality debate. Or even worse! Because everybody knows pee-pees are bad in general. ;)