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Dhruin October 2nd, 2012 20:21

Project Eternity - Ebay Fundraiser
 
This might be stretching the definition of news but it's all in the name of a good cause. Desslock - of PC Gamer fame - is selling some classic RPGs on Ebay and putting any money raised towards Obsidian's Project Eternity Kickstarter. Full details can be found in this post on the Qt3 forums:
Quote:

Hey guys, I didn't want to spam your forum with something that might be unwanted, but I'm selling 20 classic old "big box" games on eBay and donating all of the money raised to Obsidian's Project Eternity — there's a bunch of good RPGs in the crop, including a sealed copy of Ultima 9: Dragon Edition, a sealed copy of Icewind Dale 2, and collector's edition copies of World of WarCraft; WoW-Burning Crusade; EverQuest 2, & Guild Wars. There's also some non-RPG classics like Grim Fandango, Blade and Tomb Raider, and some UO expansions, Sea Dogs and Nox.

Obviously most of the listed games will only appeal to collectors, but for them, it's a chance to buy copies of some classic collectible games, and at the same time help raise money for traditional RPG gaming as represented by Project Eternity, so I thought some folks at RPG Watch might be interested.
More information.

screeg October 2nd, 2012 20:21

Really weird to do a fundraiser like this for a project that's already been funded. Twice.

Wouldn't it be a lot nicer to give the proceeds to a charity or something, since they're highly unlikely to make any kind of difference to Obsidian?

ChienAboyeur October 2nd, 2012 21:29

It might help the donator to make a big shot and get himself included in some sort of way into the game.

Gorath October 2nd, 2012 21:42

Why the negativity? I think it's very nice of him to support the Obsidian Kickstarter with a part of his collection.

Gorath October 2nd, 2012 21:46

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Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061163803)
It might help the donator to make a big shot and get himself included in some sort of way into the game.

Your IP says you're from France, so you probably simply don't know how stupid your remark was.

crpgnut October 2nd, 2012 21:59

Since the donator is already well known, he doesn't need to be made a bigshot. Desslock is one of the most known crpg reviewers ever. I believe he's just finding a way to support part of the genre he loves. Really hard to criticize the guy.

Desslock October 2nd, 2012 22:00

My reasons are pretty simple - while I think there's likely to be a lot of kickstartered projects that never produce anything of value, I believe Obsidian can pull it off and I really want to see them succeed because I love their games. I also think traditional RPG development, at least in North America, may depend upon finding alternative funding options — and, at the very least, having additional viable funding options helps make it possible to produce a greater variety of games, which is definitely good for gamers.

Project Eternity may already have met its initial funding goal (which was very modest, given the team's ambitions), but Obsidian will put any money it gets to good use, and the more raised, the more likely the finished product is something that has an impact and gets noticed in the gaming world.

So I thought about what I could do to help out in order to be able to donate more than I could otherwise afford. I guess I felt some responsibility to support traditional RPG gaming given how much enjoyment I've gotten out of it over the past 30 years, and having written about the genre in gaming publications for half that long.

I'm also at the point in my life where I have a lot of "collectibles" that I adore, but they're just sitting around being admired like art, and I know other collectors might appreciate them more - after all, I'm going to either hold on to them forever or get rid of them at some point, and this seemed like a good occasion to get some of these games in the hands of people who might still crave them, and raise some money for traditional RPG gaming at the same time (and clean out some living space for myself!)

I'm under no illusion that they going to raise a ton of cash - probably only the WoW CEs and one or two others will raise anything meaningful, and perhaps less than half will sell. So I've also committed to making at least a $500 donation anyway, regardless of how much this effort raises. There's also almost no chance that I'll ever try to sell any of these again, so this is the one chance people will have to nab 'em if they're interested .

Thrasher October 2nd, 2012 22:39

Also you can't take them with you, so you may as well choose what they are used for while you can.

Desslock October 2nd, 2012 23:06

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Originally Posted by Thrasher (Post 1061163810)
Also you can't take them with you, so you may as well choose what they are used for while you can.

I didn't want to sound morbid, but that's exactly what I was thinking too.

Thrasher October 2nd, 2012 23:13

Sorry, but that's been a lot in my thoughts lately, and was exactly what my mother did. Planning ahead is not a bad thing. :)

HiddenX October 2nd, 2012 23:18

Nice games - I can recommend

Icewind Dale 2
Grim Fandango
Sea Dogs
Half Life-Opposing Force
Freespace 2

CountChocula October 3rd, 2012 00:09

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Originally Posted by Dhruin (Post 1061163790)
This might be stretching the definition of news

Yep, I'd say this is simply someone selling some old games on eBay. Not exactly for a good cause, either, as if someone wants to donate to Project Eternity, it would probably be better to donate directly instead.

Lucky Day October 3rd, 2012 01:27

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Originally Posted by screeg (Post 1061163791)
Really weird to do a fundraiser like this for a project that's already been funded. Twice.

Wouldn't it be a lot nicer to give the proceeds to a charity or something, since they're highly unlikely to make any kind of difference to Obsidian?

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Originally Posted by CountChocula (Post 1061163819)
Yep, I'd say this is simply someone selling some old games on eBay. Not exactly for a good cause, either, as if someone wants to donate to Project Eternity, it would probably be better to donate directly instead.

this and this. my first thoughts actually. this isn't an important cause - its kind of like waiting in line to buy the latest iPhone.

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Originally Posted by crpgnut (Post 1061163806)
Since the donator is already well known, he doesn't need to be made a bigshot. Desslock is one of the most known crpg reviewers ever. I believe he's just finding a way to support part of the genre he loves. Really hard to criticize the guy.

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Originally Posted by Gorath (Post 1061163805)
Your IP says you're from France, so you probably simply don't know how stupid your remark was.

these too.

either way - its good to see Desslock again. I still remember his intense coverage of the Ultima Online lawsuit, his push to get NWN to d20 instead of 3.0 (which never would have worked legally anyway), and his itemizing every single quest in Morrowind first hand.

Dajjer October 3rd, 2012 02:53

Great idea Dess, you go boy

Man, I miss you in PC Gamer, really miss you.

Thrasher October 3rd, 2012 03:56

I second that. The magazine is noticeably cheaper since the columns evaporated. :/

guenthar October 3rd, 2012 05:40

Just to let anyone know don't buy the copy of "Guild Wars" thinking you will be able to play. Since the code was used it can't be used again and you have to have a code to play the game.

Saxon1974 October 3rd, 2012 06:49

I might be interested in IcewindDale 2 as I dont have a boxed copy but shipping is between 20 to 36$ to USA…Wow. Maybe that is because its coming from Canada? I have bought some games from the UK and had them be like 15$ or less shipping.

I have alot of games that I have collected and I plan to pass them along to my kid's as they get older (I have 3 boys that are too young to play them) otherwise I still play them from time to time. If I eventually get tired of them I may sell them someday.

Desslock October 3rd, 2012 06:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by guenthar (Post 1061163841)
Just to let anyone know don't buy the copy of "Guild Wars" thinking you will be able to play. Since the code was used it can't be used again and you have to have a code to play the game.

I tried to make that clear in the individual listings that's the case with all of the MMOs, other than the WoW: Burning Crusade CE (and likely some of the UO expansions, but I tried to be clear that you shouldn't expect that) - it's just an auction for the collectors kit physical items.

Desslock October 3rd, 2012 07:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxon1974 (Post 1061163845)
I might be interested in IcewindDale 2 as I dont have a boxed copy but shipping is between 20 to 36$ to USA…Wow. Maybe that is because its coming from Canada? I have bought some games from the UK and had them be like 15$ or less shipping.

I have alot of games that I have collected and I plan to pass them along to my kid's as they get older (I have 3 boys that are too young to play them) otherwise I still play them from time to time. If I eventually get tired of them I may sell them someday.

Canadian shipping rates are pretty terrible, but the actual shipping costs may be lower than what's listed — since I listed in Canada, I could only list choices offered by Canada Post, and there may be cheaper rates from UPS available (if you want to estimate if there's cheaper rates, you can go to the official sites for UPS or Canada Post and put in my location (Toronto, ON, Canada) and your own to see if you can find some cheaper alternatives - I've fine with shipping it with another alternative of your choosing, provided that you're fine with the delivery times associated with those alternatives — just request an invoice if you win an auction and we can figure out what works best for you.

Also, even the shipping rates provided with the listing may be slightly lower anyway since the weights/measurements I provided were conservative, as I didn't have anything other than a "human" scale - If the actual rate is less than you paid, I'll refund the difference so that you only pay the actual costs (plus a buck for packing materials). That all said, Canadian shipping rates do suck, so make sure you are comfortable with the cost estimates on the official sites (and make sure Toronto is the shipping origin, not destination), so that there's no surprises for you.

Anyway, good luck if you bid - I'd certainly rather the game ended up in the hands of someone who would really appreciate it.

Pessimeister October 3rd, 2012 07:43

It's a great idea and I applaud the nobility of the gesture, but most self-respecting gamers would already have a good proportion of 'em. ;)


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