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Dhruin October 14th, 2012 03:13

Shaker - Update #8, Evolution of Concept Art
 
There's a new Shaker update discussing two pieces of concept art:
Quote:

Hey there, Shaker operatives! This update we thought we’d let you check out the new tier you asked for, and give you a peek at the concept art process — from sketches to finished design!
Before we begin, just want to remind folks of the new tier, $125 for the Old-School Edition + Cloth Map. People wanted something more affordable, and we priced it as low as we thought we could!

Concept Art

To review: Shaker: An Old School RPG features a six-character party - you and your 3 crew as well as 2 recruitable player characters. You begin the game as James Connelly, though you may customize him any way you like (including changing his appearance and gender). Next, you create 3 different Shaker operatives to join you on your Antera mission. Traveling back through time and space to arrive on Antera, you may recruit two locals to work on your crew. This is a medieval era world, with swordplay and magic.
So we needed cool concept art to convey combat in that medieval world.
More information.

jhwisner October 14th, 2012 03:13

Obsidian has backed Shaker now. Not sure if they'll come out with a public plea on their behalf, though most likely not until their own funding window has ended, but they have provided backing at least.

Asdraguuhl October 14th, 2012 03:24

I have to say that I like the concept art a lot, the one with the large creature in the forest. In fact, I like it a lot more than the PE concept art with the five companions.

borcanu October 14th, 2012 13:03

i don't think they're creating the right concept art to attract RPGers. Thats more like mainstream DA fans piece.
go for some izometric concept art, please . Also , that guard guy looks really soft .. not what you'd except from a guy fighting monsters.
I can't find a reason for backin em .. yet

booboo October 14th, 2012 14:31

I've backed them, but at this rate they are never going to make their target. They do not seem to be taking this as 'seriously' as Obsidian? I keep on checking back, hoping for something to wow me :-/

Dajjer October 14th, 2012 16:59

If their Kickstarter had started today with all the game asset they have shown thus far and started at $500,000. Then I would be in. But it appears to me that they are making it up as they go along.

Hastar October 14th, 2012 23:21

They set their sites too high at 1 million. Am so excited about Wasteland 2 and PE but I have to hold off on this one. They should not have come out till PE was over for a month or so. They needed to give people time to pay off their credit card bills. Real bad planning on their part to come out during PE funding.

Dajjer October 14th, 2012 23:38

I don't know. Perhaps they felt they were riding the wave of RPG enthusiasm. I have probably funded 3 other RPGs while PE was being funded.

JDR13 October 14th, 2012 23:51

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Originally Posted by Dajjer (Post 1061165467)
But it appears to me that they are making it up as they go along.

The setting and basic game mechanics were obviously planned, but I think they're still finishing the details. I don't see how it's different from the majority of kickstarters in that aspect.

Gokyabgu October 15th, 2012 01:03

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061165499)
The setting and basic game mechanics were obviously planned, but I think they're still finishing the details. I don't see how it's different from the majority of kickstarters in that aspect.

You're very right about that. When Shadowrun Kickstarter project started, nothing was certain about the game even it would be an RPG or not. But, this didn't prevent people from pledging. I still don't understand this much skepticism about Shaker.

Dajjer October 15th, 2012 03:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061165499)
The setting and basic game mechanics were obviously planned, but I think they're still finishing the details. I don't see how it's different from the majority of kickstarters in that aspect.

Apparently, to many of us - it did not seem "obviously planned"

I am both a Wizardry and an Anachronix fan and unlike some I have nothing against either of the developers. But from my perspective, I just have no faith in the project at this time.

JDR13 October 15th, 2012 06:48

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Originally Posted by Dajjer (Post 1061165519)
Apparently, to many of us - it did not seem "obviously planned"

Speak for yourself. I don't think you know what everyone else's opinion is.

Having an underwhelming initial presentation doesn't mean the game wasn't planned.

Dajjer October 15th, 2012 08:06

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061165548)
Speak for yourself. I don't think you know what everyone else's opinion is.

Having an underwhelming initial presentation doesn't mean the game wasn't planned.

You are absolutely correct - I do not know what any one's real opinions is. However, I think it is fair to extrapolate that there are some folks who think like me based on the relatively underwhelming response of pledges made thus far.

JDR13 October 15th, 2012 08:18

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Originally Posted by Dajjer (Post 1061165552)
You are absolutely correct - I do not know what any one's real opinions is. However, I think it is fair to extrapolate that there are some folks who think like me based on the relatively underwhelming response of pledges made thus far.

I'm sure there are a variety of reasons their kickstarter isn't doing as well as it could, which is a shame considering it has as much potential as any other I've seen. But to claim it "wasn't planned" is just silly.

Aditya October 15th, 2012 10:37

While the game seems to have only one or two sound concepts, the overall feel of this kickstater appears as if they are just throwing around lots of marketing catchphrases to attract (old-school) RPG enthusiasts (that too in a very cheesy manner, also "get two RPGs for the price of one!!!!!!!!!!"). They are desperately trying to piggyback on the PE kickstarter success. "Shaker" is an incredibly lame title too. I hope this kickstarter 'shakes' and fails badly, as it deserves to.

wolfing October 15th, 2012 15:06

To me it reeks of "hey! look what Project Eternity is doing! I'm sure we can do something like that too, let's catch the bandwagon wooo!". I don't think it was planned, at all.

rune_74 October 15th, 2012 16:04

I think one thing to consider that at the moment Obsidion has a much larger team working on project eternity then the shaker team has. Obsidion isn't really the fair KS to compare them too, how about shadowrun or wasteland 2…which didn't have much information until further a long.

Gee to think that other kickstarters aren't at the level of a larger game company, how can that possibly be.

sakichop October 15th, 2012 17:41

Haven't had a chance to read every update so I don't know if this info is available.

How sci-fi is it? Is it like Wiz 8 with a little tech sprinkled in or is it more like dues ex?

Aditya October 15th, 2012 19:42

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Originally Posted by rune_74 (Post 1061165621)
how about shadowrun or wasteland 2…which didn't have much information until further a long.

It didn't matter coz both were (sort of) sequels, so the basic premise and gameplay was assumed to be similar to that of originals..

rune_74 October 15th, 2012 20:12

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Originally Posted by Aditya (Post 1061165679)
It didn't matter coz both were (sort of) sequels, so the basic premise and gameplay was assumed to be similar to that of originals..

I will give you that for wasteland, but shadowrun is nowhere near a sequel.


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