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Dhruin December 2nd, 2012 18:26

BioWare - David Gaider on narrative design
 
I keep forgetting to catch up with David Gaider's personal blog on tumblr, The Bitterweetest Thing. A couple of days ago he posted Part 5 of a series on Narrative Design (the previous part is linked from this one, so work back if you want) and offers some amusing anecdotes on the design of Dragon Age - specifically, naming things:
Quote:

These are laws that, since I created them, have yet to fail me.
Gaider’s Laws of Naming Things
1) If the name is a made-up word for something, everyone will have different connotations and immediately dislike it.
2) Within 3-6 months, people will begin to associate that made-up word with the thing… and they will forget that they ever had an objection. Of course it’s that name. What else could it be called?
You think I’m kidding? I am not kidding.
“Qunari” was initially despised. Some people thought it sounded too much like canary. Some people thought “the Qun” was difficult to pronounce, and sounded too much like a bad word (seriously?). It was allowed to remain as a temp name, and we would look at it later for what it would actually be. Lo and behold, when we turned around 6 months later, suddenly nobody wanted to change it. That’s what they were. What else could they be?
The Dragon Age world was not initially called “Thedas”. There was a name that existed, but I didn’t like it and refused to use it in the documentation or in conversation… so, when we had to refer to it at all, we called it “the Dragon Age world” or “the Dragon Age setting” (with the understanding that eventually we would have to give it a real name).
It amused us to find on our forums that, lacking a provided alternative, someone had begun using the acronym “TheDAS” (The Dragon Age Setting) …and it stuck. Funny! So we started calling it Thedas in conversation, mostly because that was shorter. Then, lo and behold, when we sat down for the meeting to give the world its real name, we couldn’t settle on anything. Every option didn’t seem right. Nothing fit. Sheryl asked, “Can’t we just call it Thedas?”… and we realized the truth. For good or ill, Law #2 had already taken hold.
“Grey Wardens”. What else could they be called? Plenty! The oldest name I recall (it may not be the first) was the “White Rangers”. First we had to change the word ‘rangers’ because that was felt to be too close to the Tolkien group. There was, oh, about twenty different iterations. My frustration began to mount as each was was countered with, “Oh, I don’t know… I just don’t like it.” No suggestions, just concern about how important this group would be for DAO and how the name had to really sparkle. Ugh. I eventually threw out ‘wardens’ in desperation, and was surprised it stuck. Then the conversation turned to whether ‘White’ made them sound too much like good guys. Cue me losing more hair.
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rjshae December 2nd, 2012 18:26

I know I'll never look at "Thedas" the same way again. :)

It remains surprising to me how conservative gamers can be. Many complain about a lack of "innovation", yet moan and groan if the game doesn't utilize whatever gaming element they have grown accustomed to. I suppose the naming effect is similar.

darkling December 2nd, 2012 21:04

Wow. Committee writing sounds painful.

I'm surprised anything interesting peeks through the cracks with this kind of narrative development. :/

ChaosTheory December 3rd, 2012 02:48

And then they come up with "Cousland"…? (facepalm)

Aditya December 3rd, 2012 08:36

So 'Gaider’s *Laws* of Naming Things' produced such creative geniuses as Hightown and Lowtown, as two sections of Kirkwall? Assuming they were placeholders names, as they very much appear to be, it also displays the creative bankruptcy of Gaider's team of writers.. they couldn't come up with anything better throughout the development process. Pretty pathetic.

Raggie December 3rd, 2012 12:36

This reminds me of how they named Guybrush Threepwood.

elikal December 4th, 2012 14:47

I usually enjoy reading his posts, blogs asf. It gives a cool insight into the creative process. Just looking at the last few Bioware games, DA2, ME3 and SWTOR I wonder if they should not change a few things. Those last games didn't actually have the best stories. Somehow the characters got too… repetitive? Like being too much the same. I guess a company needs to change writers from time to time.

I know I loved David Eddings Belgarian Saga much. But all his later books were way too much copy ideas from his great success. I guess that is how authors are; often trapped in their success.

Dez December 5th, 2012 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aditya (Post 1061173981)
So 'Gaider’s *Laws* of Naming Things' produced such creative geniuses as Hightown and Lowtown, as two sections of Kirkwall? Assuming they were placeholders names, as they very much appear to be, it also displays the creative bankruptcy of Gaider's team of writers.. they couldn't come up with anything better throughout the development process. Pretty pathetic.

Well that shouldn't come as a surprise if we think how well bioware's writing team handled critique during DA2 launch.

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