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Thaurin March 26th, 2013 18:44

Skyrim v1.9
 
Since I don't keep up with developments, and I kinda feel like playing the game again, and certain people here were always complaining about the plethora of bugs in it, and since I haven't posted in a while, and I couldn't find any existing news item or forum thread about this, and you people are so incredibly knowledgeable about everything RPG and will forgive me unconditionally if this has already been discussed before, and I'm too lazy to scour the internet, what are your thoughts about the fixes Bethesda has made in the recent patch that Steam downloaded onto my PC?

joxer March 26th, 2013 20:47

Um… 15 months after the game release… To note a few…

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- Fixed issue with quest scripts that were not shutting down properly
- Random dragon attacks will no longer occur during “Battle for Whiterun”
- The white phial is no longer consumed if given to a follower
- Unused briar hearts can be dropped after finishing “The White Phial”
- Gallus’ Encoded Journal is no longer a quest item after completing the Thieves Guild
- Pantea’s flute is no longer a quest item after completing “Pantea’s Flute”
That and tons of other bugfixes.

15 months for polishing, I wonder how many months this game was being developed then? 15*10=150 maybe?

In any case it's a good news, but I have to replay some other games before I return to Skyrim. But now it finally "sounds" playable/enjoyable/notannoyable and worth buying it's DLC. When's the next DLC sale? ;)

Thrasher March 26th, 2013 21:25

Beware of the Steam malware. ;) Actually not as terrible as Origin, but hate the stealth updates.

joxer March 26th, 2013 22:06

Oh, I'm not afraid of Steam updater so no worries.
If you thought about old Skyrim patches that brought more bugs inside the game… That's not Steam's fault. ;)

Dez March 26th, 2013 22:25

Sure benthesa is slow and they could do better with patches, but the fact that they support modding and release open world AAA rpgs, well they are quite cool bunch in my books.

If you're a pc gamer there is the unofficial skyrim patch available that fixes almost every quest bug and it is conctantly updated.

Plus the same team has released:

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch
Unofficial High Resolution Patch

joxer March 26th, 2013 22:34

I don't want bugfix mods thankye. That's devs' job.

But I could definetly dance on nomobrespawn mod if there is one.

sakichop March 26th, 2013 23:05

Crap I'm going to miss the 500+ bug rants in every skyrim thread.

Oh well, there's always the next ES game.;)

joxer March 26th, 2013 23:16

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Originally Posted by sakichop (Post 1061190027)
Crap I'm going to miss the 500+ bug rants in every skyrim thread.

Don't hope too much, now it'll be 400+ rant. :D
But I admit, the patch 1.9 is HUGE. Didn't expect it.

GothicGothicness March 27th, 2013 09:14

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Originally Posted by Thaurin (Post 1061189968)
Since I don't keep up with developments, and I kinda feel like playing the game again, and certain people here were always complaining about the plethora of bugs in it, and since I haven't posted in a while, and I couldn't find any existing news item or forum thread about this, and you people are so incredibly knowledgeable about everything RPG and will forgive me unconditionally if this has already been discussed before, and I'm too lazy to scour the internet, what are your thoughts about the fixes Bethesda has made in the recent patch that Steam downloaded onto my PC?

Wow that most be the longest sentence I have read in a long while…..

ChienAboyeur March 27th, 2013 09:17

They have been doing more than patching for bugs. They have been expanding on the game, reviewing game features, introducing new balances etc

In the last two updates, it is clear they have reviewed the rules for encounters as you now meet a whole new composition of road encounters. So much my character no longer rides but runs.

They have reworked the NPC AI who are now much better at using terrain and setting up ambushes (it still happens though you see them hiding before they are hid), followers are better at following, dragons might have been added one or two new behaviours. They have consistently worked on the economy and how holding activity should act on another.

The legendary feature adds the possibility to steep up the difficulty of the game drastically. Character level 40, I made his two handed ability legendary and suddenly everything was made very hard to kill. As you can redistribute perks, you can choose to avoid those that gives such an edge to the character.

I had a big fight against an elder dragon as it probably must have been. I lost my companion on the way (forgot to untick the wait here command) and spotted a troup of atmer elves escorting a prisoner. Just as the character prepared to assault them, a dragon swooped in. The prisoner was fast down and it took five minutes to kill the dragon. One atmer died in the meantime, the two others were one blow away from their death. Dragon's attack were more distributed all over its opponents and no longer focused on the dragonborn.

Kostas March 27th, 2013 11:37

^That certainly sounds like more than they've ever done with their games but given Skyrims success it's certainly plausible. Wonder how the mods that make big changes adapt to such "upstream" activity by Bethesda, if they will at all.

Thaurin March 27th, 2013 12:03

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Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061189999)
Um… 15 months after the game release… To note a few…
[…]
In any case it's a good news, but I have to replay some other games before I return to Skyrim. But now it finally "sounds" playable/enjoyable/notannoyable and worth buying it's DLC. When's the next DLC sale? ;)

Sorry, I never had the obviously absolutely dreadful gaming experience that you seem to have had with Skyrim. So complaining about it to me isn't really doing anything.

I won't touch the DLC before I've actually played through most or all of the main game's content… which will take me a while with my attention span. :)

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Originally Posted by Thrasher (Post 1061190006)
Beware of the Steam malware. ;) Actually not as terrible as Origin, but hate the stealth updates.

I like Steam's automatic updates. I guess with Skyrim, there's a chance of mods breaking. But I'll leave the auto-updates on regardless. :)

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 1061190020)
Sure benthesa is slow and they could do better with patches

I'm slow with my games myself, so it works out great. :)

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 1061190020)
If you're a pc gamer there is the unofficial skyrim patch available that fixes almost every quest bug and it is conctantly updated.

Yeah, I had that and a ton of other mods through the Workshop and Nexus. Unfortunately, it gives me slowdowns in some areas and I don't know which mod is responsible. I love throwing in random enhancements, though. :)

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Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061190021)
I don't want bugfix mods thankye. That's devs' job.

So your principles killed the game for you. Not very pragmatic. I'll never understand.

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Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061190082)
They have been doing more than patching for bugs. They have been expanding on the game, reviewing game features, introducing new balances etc […]

Interesting. That and all the mods I threw in the mix increase my desire to jump back in the game. I've always enjoyed running around Skyrim. I never know why I always stop playing a game before the end. :)

joxer March 27th, 2013 13:31

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Originally Posted by Thaurin (Post 1061190091)
So your principles killed the game for you. Not very pragmatic. I'll never understand.

My principle is not to abuse ppl to work for free. Yes I'm aware I'll never earn billions with such principle, but hating anything that smells on slavery is my choice.

Too many bugs "killed" the game for me, not some principle. And it seems I'm not the only one who whined for more than a year. Because of us whiners, EA finally blessed a huge bugfixing patch that doesn't fix a few "rare this/rare that". If I joined your wagon of "let's abuse modders", 1.9 would have never happened. You'll never understand that and that's one thing I agree with you.

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Originally Posted by Thaurin (Post 1061190091)
I won't touch the DLC before I've actually played through most or all of the main game's content… which will take me a while with my attention span. :)

I've actually played the most of the main game's content despite seeing and experiencing annoyances frequently. And there is no way I'd ever buy any DLC for a game in such shape. Was no way, to be precise. As this patch contains some of the things I still remember being very angry about.
Since they've decided to finally polish the game, I'll probably buy DLC.

Thaurin March 27th, 2013 14:01

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Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061190105)
If I joined your wagon of "let's abuse modders", 1.9 would have never happened. You'll never understand that and that's one thing I agree with you.

You have a funny idea of what abuse is. Those modders did it voluntarily and without being coaxed, had fun doing it and learned some valuable skills in the process that may be useful to them in areas of their lives that they may want to explore in the future. Like I said, I'll never understand.

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As this patch contains some of the things I still remember being very angry about.
I'd suggest learning to control your emotions. Getting angry at a game or developer is not useful. :)

Thaurin March 27th, 2013 14:10

But it's good to hear from the bug-haters that this patch alleviates some of their worries. That was kind of the point of this thread.

joxer March 27th, 2013 14:20

Slaves on cotton plantations also volunteered (not being payed for the work) and definetly learned some valuable skills in areas of their lives.

Thaurin March 27th, 2013 14:41

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Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061190115)
Slaves on cotton plantations also volunteered (not being payed for the work) and definetly learned some valuable skills in areas of their lives.

I think you don't really understand the meaning of "voluntarily." :)

rune_74 March 28th, 2013 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061190105)
My principle is not to abuse ppl to work for free. Yes I'm aware I'll never earn billions with such principle, but hating anything that smells on slavery is my choice.

Too many bugs "killed" the game for me, not some principle. And it seems I'm not the only one who whined for more than a year. Because of us whiners, EA finally blessed a huge bugfixing patch that doesn't fix a few "rare this/rare that". If I joined your wagon of "let's abuse modders", 1.9 would have never happened. You'll never understand that and that's one thing I agree with you.

You do know that the game was published by Bethesda right? EA has nothing to do with it.

Dez March 28th, 2013 00:34

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Originally Posted by Thaurin (Post 1061190091)
I'm slow with my games myself, so it works out great. :)

Yeah i don't mind it either really, as long as patches keep coming and they keep making awesome games like skyrim and support modding, i'm a happy camper :)

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Yeah, I had that and a ton of other mods through the Workshop and Nexus. Unfortunately, it gives me slowdowns in some areas and I don't know which mod is responsible. I love throwing in random enhancements, though. :)
I doubt its the unofficial patch. I just recently did a clean install of skyrim to my pc and it runs flawlessly with unofficial patches. :) By no means I'm not an expert with skyrim mods, but if i had to make a wild quess, some unoptimized script in some other mod could easily cause such slowdown in performance. Or if you're running one of those npcs mods (like wars in skyrim) they are known to cause major slowdowns.

Thaurin March 28th, 2013 12:05

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 1061190239)
I doubt its the unofficial patch. I just recently did a clean install of skyrim to my pc and it runs flawlessly with unofficial patches. :) By no means I'm not an expert with skyrim mods, but if i had to make a wild quess, some unoptimized script in some other mod could easily cause such slowdown in performance. Or if you're running one of those npcs mods (like wars in skyrim) they are known to cause major slowdowns.

I do have the More Interesting NPCs more. I have yet to find these more interesting NPCs, though. ;) I do seem to have been hit by the lip sync bug, where sometimes the NPCs lip sync is off. Annoying!


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