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Couchpotato October 16th, 2013 02:43

Witcher 3 - Using SpeedTree For Forests
 
Well this story might interest a few it's an announcement that The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt will be using SpeedTree for it's vast forests.

Quote:

SpeedTree® to Build Vast Woodlands in Gameplay of Next-Gen The Witcher ® 3

COLUMBIA, SC – In the highly anticipated RPG, The Witcher® 3: Wild Hunt, monster slayer Geralt of Rivia will journey through an open world of unparalleled scale, diversity and realistic ancient woodlands created with the help of SpeedTree® for Games.

Concluding the riveting story of the widely-acclaimed Witcher game franchise from CD Projekt RED, The Witcher 3 is due out in 2014 on PC, PlayStation®4 and Xbox One, the all-in-one games and entertainment system from Microsoft. This will be the third title in the series to integrate SpeedTree middleware into the story-driven experience and natural environments that have become a trademark of the franchise.

“We’ve created really stunning ecosystems in The Witcher 3. Vegetation and trees in the game are a really important part of the overall experience,” said Michał Stec, Art Producer at CD Projekt RED. “Without the SpeedTree library, tools and SDK, it wouldn’t have been possible to include this level of detail and interaction with such intricate, woodland environments,” Stec added.

SpeedTree’s advanced SDK and real-time support of next-gen platforms played an important role in developing the expansive and open world of The Witcher 3, where creatures and characters interact with vast natural surroundings seemingly at will. “SpeedTree provided precise modeling and randomization tools to build the unique look we wanted for our massive forests,” noted Stec. “With The Witcher 3 set in an open world that will be about 35 times larger than Witcher 2, SpeedTree middleware greatly facilitated development and made the environments look really complete.”

SpeedTree developer IDV shared the company’s delight with CD Projekt RED’s implementation in The Witcher 3. “Our early involvement with next-gen platforms allowed us to provide the CD Projekt RED development team with the right tools at the right time,” said IDV President Michael Sechrest, “We’re looking forward to the release of the The Witcher 3 to showcase SpeedTree’s expanded capabilities, particularly on the new consoles.”

More information.

joxer October 16th, 2013 02:43

Don't get me wrong, but I really don't have a slightest idea what's so spectacular about it.
Then again, I adored blown trees effect in Risen2 so maybe that's the catch I'm missing.

Ihaterpg October 16th, 2013 02:50

So they are looking to take the Skyrim road, well good luck to them, with no experience in open worlds they need a lot.

EDIT: Quote: "Vegetation and trees in the game are a really important part of the overall experience,” said Michał Stec, Art Producer at CD Projekt RED."

LOL ok that open world design! Great… a gameplay based on vegetation and trees… Fantastic. Sic. I enjoyed less The Witcher 2 than 1 but it looks like I'll skip the 3.

EDIT2: That said I won't throw them a rock, they probably just analysed the core of Skyrim gameplay, tourism. Fine analysis.

Zloth October 16th, 2013 03:41

SpeedTree is used in a LOT of games. It isn't a real big niche but IDV seems to have a solid lock on it.

zahratustra October 16th, 2013 04:57

You really shouldn't try to be ironic Ihaterpg. You don't have the head for it.

kalniel October 16th, 2013 16:00

They used it in The Witcher 2 as well, fyi.

rjshae October 16th, 2013 16:13

I think this is the key statement:

"We’re looking forward to the release of the The Witcher 3 to showcase SpeedTree’s expanded capabilities, particularly on the new consoles."

So it isn't that they weren't using it before (weren't they?), but that they can do more with it. Presumably the faster compute and better memory capabilities of the new platforms helps with the variety. (I remember back when NWN2 told you to limit the variety of tree types in an area to no more than 4 because of performance issues.)

Kostas October 16th, 2013 16:52

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Originally Posted by kalniel (Post 1061222349)
They used it in The Witcher 2 as well, fyi.

Didn't know that.

If the forest outside of Floatsam was built using SpeedTree technology I see no reason to be skeptical.

zahratustra October 16th, 2013 17:28

"Kevin Meredith: Our favorite example is the first Witcher game, by CD Projekt, which came out in 2007 and made outstanding use of SpeedTree version 4, with lots of dark and foreboding forests of procedural trees. But for Witcher 2, CD Projekt got to use SpeedTree v5, a major rewrite of the software that enabled hand-drawing of trees and individual branch placement and editing. As you’ll see if you play Witcher 2, they made great use of the new features, for example with branches carefully placed so that the monsters could actually climb down them convincingly to attack the hero."

Read more at http://gamingbolt.com/speedtree-inte…2H4Gc4w4tvX.99

GhanBuriGhan October 16th, 2013 17:32

I think pretty much every 3D video game forest you have traversed in recent years was a speedtree forest. Admittedly they keep getting better and better.

DArtagnan October 16th, 2013 17:33

IIRC, Bethesda didn't use SpeedTree for Skyrim - but I could be wrong.

zahratustra October 16th, 2013 18:16

Beth used it for Oblivion but not Skyrim.

Thrasher October 16th, 2013 19:20

They probably copied the code and renamed it and called it part of the "new" engine. ;)

GhanBuriGhan October 17th, 2013 09:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by DArtagnan (Post 1061222362)
IIRC, Bethesda didn't use SpeedTree for Skyrim - but I could be wrong.

True, I forgot about that. There are probably other examples as well but still, Speedtree was and is very widely used.

Ihaterpg October 20th, 2013 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by zahratustra (Post 1061222297)
You really shouldn't try to be ironic Ihaterpg. You don't have the head for it.

It's funny you push the blindness up to defend so bad comments of their future game, omg. I don't know if I made some irony or not, but you can easily imagine I don't care of your writing advice… not more of your opinion on me.

But push it to the personal insult that's pathetic and just show you have nothing to answer but pointless crap to throw. And spare me the comment about the use of crap word to answer such small post.

zahratustra October 20th, 2013 09:08

I have no idea what "pushing the blindness up" means but let's see which one of your valuable contributions I was referring to… Ah yes, you have declared that Witcher 3 will be inferior because they use Speedtree… Well, fuck me, was that any reason to go pathetic on you?

Alrik Fassbauer October 20th, 2013 14:10

Drakensang 1 also used SpeedTree - but they abandoned it for Drakensang 2, argueing (spelling ?) that SpeedTree wasn't cappable of modelling "typical" German/European deep forests …

zahratustra October 20th, 2013 14:42

And here was me thinking that Dark Eye was set in Aventuria and not in Central Europe :)


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