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Couchpotato October 31st, 2013 05:28

Witcher 3 - No DRM on Release
 
CD Project Red has released an open letter to the Witcher community with a promise that The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt will have no DRM on release.

Quote:

Hey, following our recent announcement of the distribution deals of The Witcher 3 in North America and Europe, there have been some concerns regarding DRM and previous legal issues with The Witcher 2. Weíve seen a lot of comments in various places around the web and we would like to join in on the conversation.

Iíd like to say it loud and clear: The PC version of The Witcher 3 will have absolutely no DRM from day 0. Zero. Zip. Nada. It doesnít matter if you choose to buy it on GOG.com and support us directly or buy the game in box format, youíll still get the 100% DRM-free experience. And this goes for the whole world.

Weíve fiddled with DRM in the past (Oh boy! How young and naive we were;)) and thatís enough. Lesson learned.

Having said that, Iíd like to thank you for your continuous support. Youíve bought six million copies of the Witcher games so far. Whoo-hoo! Letís celebrate. Here, have some cake!

UPDATE:

Itíll be on Steam; the team isnít going to exclude that community by any means. Gamers have a choice in where they buy their games, but where CDPR does have control ó like GOG.com ó there will be absolutely no DRM.

Cheers,

Marcin Iwinski
co-founder / Joint CEO

More information.

Lucky Day October 31st, 2013 05:28

OK, I'm confused

Will there be no DRM promise, or maybe they mean No, DRM Promise which I think means there will be DRM for sure. These people are confusing, which should not be a surprise from a company that makes a game called "The Witcher"

Couchpotato October 31st, 2013 05:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky Day (Post 1061224402)
OK, I'm confused

Will there be no DRM promise, or maybe they mean No, DRM Promise which I think means there will be DRM for sure. These people are confusing, which should not be a surprise from a company that makes a game called "The Witcher"

Well if your buying the Steam release there is nothing they can do. I will just buy the GOG version, and not bother with the middleman.

Morrandir October 31st, 2013 09:38

Good guy CD Project Red.

Cacheperl October 31st, 2013 09:45

I'm just surprised that Namco Bandai plays along with that. But yeah, the gog.com version it'll be.

ChienAboyeur October 31st, 2013 09:53

Incidental lesson here: people admit Steam is DRM. Quite often, Steam supporters deny this device is DRM. But if they see DRM in the Steam release of a game that is supposed not to include DRM, Steam is the DRM.

GothicGothicness October 31st, 2013 10:31

GOG version is is, just like TW one and TW 2.

DArtagnan October 31st, 2013 10:42

Couldn't care less about DRM, tbh.

JDR13 October 31st, 2013 11:24

I tend to go with whatever is the most convenient for me, and that often happens to be Steam.

If it's a developer that I'm particularly fond of though, I'll always try to purchase it in the way that gets them the most money.

sakichop October 31st, 2013 12:30

It's good for people that care about DRM for me though, I'll get it on steam.

booboo October 31st, 2013 12:43

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061224440)
I tend to go with whatever is the most convenient for me, and that often happens to be Steam.

If it's a developer that I'm particularly fond of though, I'll always try to purchase it in the way that gets them the most money.

Do they get more money from GOG? I guess they would - in which case I think I'll get that version. I still don't like Steam, but I have grown to accept - like so many things that we all grow to accommodate (like higher taxes, government incompetence etc)
On that note, Steam games are usually more expensive (even though they are entirely digital…) than the physical boxed copies released here. E.g Call of Duty: Ghosts, $60 on Steam, $50 at the local store. Of course, they are available immediately at release.

DArtagnan October 31st, 2013 12:58

Thankfully, you can get most Steam games without having to pay their ridiculous EU prices.

GhanBuriGhan October 31st, 2013 13:36

@Couchpotato, Chien Aboyeur:
You can have DRM free games on steam - that is games distributed by steam that don't use the Steamworks DRM package. Meaning you can run the game from it's folder without steam, once it's installed. I'd assume that that's what they'll do.
You'd still have to install Steam to download or activate the game, but I don't think in that constellation we can really call it DRM anymore.

Couchpotato October 31st, 2013 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhanBuriGhan (Post 1061224457)
@Couchpotato, Chien Aboyeur:
You can have DRM free games on steam - that is games distributed by steam that don't use the Steamworks DRM package. Meaning you can run the game from it's folder without steam, once it's installed. I'd assume that that's what they'll do.
You'd still have to install Steam to download or activate the game, but I don't think in that constellation we can really call it DRM anymore.

Not arguing semantics here but that is DRM. It's just become accepted that nobody cares anymore. Anyway I have no problem with Steam GhanBuriGhan.

I'll just buy another version without it if offered one. :)

SpoonFULL October 31st, 2013 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhanBuriGhan (Post 1061224457)
@Couchpotato, Chien Aboyeur:
You can have DRM free games on steam - that is games distributed by steam that don't use the Steamworks DRM package. Meaning you can run the game from it's folder without steam, once it's installed. I'd assume that that's what they'll do.
You'd still have to install Steam to download or activate the game, but I don't think in that constellation we can really call it DRM anymore.

I agree with this definition of non-DRM Steam downloads, but I am yet to see a game that is downloaded through Steam and can be run through its executable without the need for Steam be on in the background.

GhanBuriGhan October 31st, 2013 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061224458)
Not arguing semantics here but that is DRM. It's just become accepted that nobody cares anymore. Anyway I have no problem with Steam GhanBuriGhan.

I'll just buy another version without if it's offered. :)

By that definition, a CD code is DRM too, as is a codewheel, and there has never been a time without DRM. Meaning, such a definition is useless ;)

gandalf.nho October 31st, 2013 13:52

Will buy this one in GOG without a doubt

GhanBuriGhan October 31st, 2013 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpoonFULL (Post 1061224461)
I agree with this definition of non-DRM Steam downloads, but I am yet to see a game that is downloaded through Steam and can be run through its executable without the need for Steam be on in the background.

Here's a list (not sure how up-to-date):
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/lis…on_steam/page1

Couchpotato October 31st, 2013 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhanBuriGhan (Post 1061224462)
By that definition, a CD code is DRM too, as is a codewheel, and there has never been a time without DRM. Meaning, such a definition is useless ;)

Can't argue with that. Anyway DRM has been talked about to death and I don't feel like starting a ten page discussion that leads nowhere again.

Suffice it to say some hate it. some love it , and others just put up with it.;)

GhanBuriGhan October 31st, 2013 14:05

Oh I agree. T'was just a technical comment :)


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