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Couchpotato March 15th, 2014 09:39

Age of Wonders 3 - Introducing The Theocrat
 
Triumph Studios has a new development update for Age of Wonders 3 that reveals the next hero class called The Theocrat. They even included a new video.



Quote:

A radiant sun shines over Triumph Studios today, a perfect moment to reveal the long-expected Theocrat Class with another 19 minute long game play video, once again narrated by Tombles. In this video he finally gets his chance to convert you to Goblindom as he roams the lands with his Goblin Theocrat, spreading the good word, and bringing light to the blighted lands. Watch as his army fearlessly engages the heretic Sorcerer hordes in her own backyard, scaling the walls of her city and showing just how powerful those on the righteous path of the Theocrat can be.

“Theocrats lead the masses by their hearts. They heal, persuade, minister and convert. Their zealots are fiercely loyal, convinced that any action they perform will earn them a greater reward in the afterlife. Because Theocrats tend not to wield many directly offensive powers, it is tempting to believe Theocrats pose no threat. History has proven this to be foolishness. Many earthly kingdoms have fallen under relentless crusades where holy armies of martyrs, evangelists, templar knights, war shrines and angelic beings bring Armageddon to pagan lands.”“Gifted Lords of the Third Age” by Ralinstone Pedant, Chronicler

For more information about the Theocrat Class, check the class page.

More information.

Michael Dean March 15th, 2014 09:39

Day One purchase for me.

azarhal March 15th, 2014 12:28

Tombles's let's play are always entertaining.

and religious goblins are a strange sight.

Voqar March 15th, 2014 18:54

I enjoy their vids not only for showing off the awesome of the game but the guy who does them is amusing.

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Originally Posted by Michael Dean (Post 1061245840)
Day One purchase for me.

Same. Well, probably pre purchase but there's no particular rush.

Game looks better and better all the time. Quill's let's play on it has lots of goodness to see as well (man am I getting progressively more jealous of Quill and some youtubers who get weeks of early access to these games, he has Warlock 2 as well…).

Capt. Huggy Face March 16th, 2014 05:27

Already pre-ordered. This guy does do nice videos. And I think it was Quill who did the videos that convinced me to buy Banished, which turns out to be a nice little game.

ChienAboyeur March 16th, 2014 09:04

After watching the vid, the same question rises up again and over again: why do people keep selling the sequence "UGOIGO" as a miracle for tactics?
Where are tactics displayed in this video sequence? Can a supporter of the claim tell?

So little unit synergy, so little unit coordination, control of space is absent, positional play is absent etc

The next step is that using a screwdriver to drive screws is tactics because in this vid, that is what is shown: use of an adapted solution to a case.

tomasp3n March 16th, 2014 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061245910)
After watching the vid, the same question rises up again and over again: why do people keep selling the sequence "UGOIGO" as a miracle for tactics?
Where are tactics displayed in this video sequence? Can a supporter of the claim tell?

So little unit synergy, so little unit coordination, control of space is absent, positional play is absent etc

Can you give examples of games you think have "good" tactics? Kings Bounty? X-com? XCOM? FO:T? Or are those all bad because of UGOIGO that you keep complaining about?

ChienAboyeur March 16th, 2014 12:42

Arent the "" used for quotation? Reading my post again, I can find no mention of "good tactics".
So, I cant give a game that has "good tactics" because that mean tactics that are good and it implies that they are tactics beside being good.

Watching the video, tactics, where? What is supposed to be called tactics?

tomasp3n March 16th, 2014 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061245918)
Arent the "" used for quotation? Reading my post again, I can find no mention of "good tactics".
So, I cant give a game that has "good tactics" because that mean tactics that are good and it implies that they are tactics beside being good.

Watching the video, tactics, where? What is supposed to be called tactics?

I didn't mean to insult you or misinterpret your post, I'm not even saying I disagree with your statement. The quotation marks was because the word good is most times a subjective opinion and not actual facts. Let me restate my question.

What games, if any, do you find to have any tactics or even tactical depth? I'm honestly just curious.

EDIT: I just reread my last post and realised I did come off as pretty offensive. I apologize, that was not my intent.

qpqpqp March 17th, 2014 13:15

i hate to say it, but i have to agree with dog announcer. actually… to a point. certainly, the whole rpg tactics game genre are really more like weak math puzzles than anything to do with battle strategy. but, just as rpg video games aren't really role-playing, it seems a little bit of a stretch to criticize one member of a well-established genre. it's not to your taste, fine, but it's a tactics rpg because that's what these games are called now. gran turismo 5 is so far from a proam racing simulation, it better belongs in the same genre as… RC pro-am (slightly better graphics). but what are ya gonna do?

azarhal March 17th, 2014 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by qpqpqp (Post 1061246003)
certainly, the whole rpg tactics game genre are really more like weak math puzzles than anything to do with battle strategy.

Is there a single computer strategy game that isn't a math puzzle???

DArtagnan March 17th, 2014 14:22

Company of Heroes is a great example of a game that approximates real warfare relatively convincingly.

zahratustra March 17th, 2014 16:27

So is Total War series.

ChienAboyeur March 18th, 2014 08:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomasp3n (Post 1061245921)

What games, if any, do you find to have any tactics or even tactical depth? I'm honestly just curious.

Not the topic. There could be no other game beside that one and this wont change the question: what is seen in the video that call for being characterized as tactics?

Nevertheless, games including tactics are plenty

-FPS (Counter Strike, SWAT4, many more)
-Total War series
-even a game like Survivor Squad have tactics in it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by qpqpqp (Post 1061246003)
but what are ya gonna do?

All cultures not being equal, why not:
-write to your lawyer
or
-phone your senator
or
-petition your government
or
-vote with your dollar
or
-grab your gun and stand your ground
or
-play games that include tactics?

tomasp3n March 18th, 2014 17:07

Alright, thanks Chien. I do love Total War, I just hope they'll announce Warhammer:Total War soon. OT: I put alot of hours into AoW2 but I can't really call it one of my favourites. Will probably buy this somewhere down the line though.

ChienAboyeur April 3rd, 2014 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomasp3n (Post 1061245914)
Can you give examples of games you think have "good" tactics? Kings Bounty? X-com? XCOM? FO:T? Or are those all bad because of UGOIGO that you keep complaining about?


Another set of games that include tactics. Both are RPGs, indie projects and were not reported by this site, I think.

Running with rifles:
http://www.modulaatio.com/runningwithrifles/

The next massive update coming soon will introduce trench warfare tactics vs open warfare tactics.

Rimworld:
http://rimworldgame.com
The next big update will introduce allied/enemy tactics.


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