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Dhruin December 8th, 2007 06:26

Indie Game of the Year @ GameTunnel
 
Indie specialist site GameTunnel is taking votes on the (indie) Game of the Year. The list includes Depths of Peril and Geneforge 4, both of which deserve some love in my opinion.
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chamr December 8th, 2007 06:26

Where the h-e-double-toothpick is Eschalon!?

Melvil December 8th, 2007 07:54

ya that was what I noticed, guess it's too new or something

Sir_Brennus December 8th, 2007 08:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhruin (Post 57000)
Depths of Peril and Geneforge 4, both of which deserve some love in my opinion.
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Oh, god - no.

Dhruin December 8th, 2007 08:51

*shrug* They're both excellent releases, in my opinion. I won't lose any sleep that you disagree.

Eschalon is an obvious exclusion.

rune_74 December 8th, 2007 09:01

Actually I think eschalon tops both titles….spiderweb needs to wake up and realize everyone is tired of the same games.

Morbus December 8th, 2007 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by rune_74 (Post 57018)
Actually I think eschalon tops both titles….spiderweb needs to wake up and realize everyone is tired of the same games.

Well said :P But it doesn't mean they are bad games. Eschalon surely tops them, though.

Dhruin December 8th, 2007 12:07

I'm very pleased for Basilisk they've gathered fans but it isn't that simple. Eschalon has excellent production values and some very nice points but Geneforge 4's content is substantially deeper, for example. Both good games but I think a good chunk of people who would say Eschalon is better haven't actually played GF4.

Alrik Fassbauer December 8th, 2007 15:05

Aquaria has already been released ??? Must've missed that …

rune_74 December 8th, 2007 15:44

Sorry Dhruin but I have played geneforge 4…3…2…1…same game different packaging….

karka December 8th, 2007 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer (Post 57039)
Aquaria has already been released ??? Must've missed that …

Yep. It was released yesterday. But it seems server is overloaded. Luckily, I managed to download the demo last night.

Alrik Fassbauer December 8th, 2007 16:54

Oh, nice ! :)

Must - get - Demo … ;)

Edit: That explains why I couldn't get onto the siite today. ;)

Lucky Day December 8th, 2007 20:02

Aquaria released yesterday and mentioned but Eschalon two weeks ago and not. Methinks their radar needs fixing.

Has anybody contacted the Admin for the site? Maybe they hated it over there: like they all have widescreen monitors or demand pathinding in their cRPG's ;).

skavenhorde December 8th, 2007 20:41

I agree with Dhruin. The depth of all of the geneforges is amazing and Eschalon isn't quite there yet.

Just a little example from Geneforge one. Do you want to side up with the Obeyers?….No, you don't like the Obeyers hmmmm ok sign up with the Takers then. You don't like the Takers either hmmmm Ok fine sign up with the awakened then. Unfortunatly Eshalon doesn't quite have the depth and story telling ability YET of a spiderweb game. IMO the Geneforges are great and if you are tired of Geneforge then give Nethergate a try, play as a roman or celt. Nethergate IMO is his best work to date.

Dhruin December 8th, 2007 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by rune_74 (Post 57048)
Sorry Dhruin but I have played geneforge 4…3…2…1…same game different packaging….

I wasn't talking about you specifically but if you've played both and Eschalon is better, let's talk about that. What makes it better?

Arma December 9th, 2007 01:05

Geneforge 4, the current latest one, while running in absolutely the same veins as its predecessors, has a very deep story and more importantly setting. Beside everything else, how many fantasy RPGs (or games at all for the same matter) are not going the same old "high fantasy" stuff - elves, dwarves and such. Geneforge and Avernum deserve all the credit for making a truly amazing original game setting, even though they share the same engine and someone following the series woud find them somewhat mediocre.

Shagnak December 9th, 2007 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by chamr (Post 57001)
Where the h-e-double-toothpick is Eschalon!?

Or Nethergate:Resurrection.

Alrik Fassbauer December 9th, 2007 16:59

I just believe that Aquaria has been longer on their radar and even won an award before - I don't think Eschalon did. (Although I must say that I'm not that deep into Indie games.)

Apart from that you're probably right, Lucky Day.

rune_74 December 9th, 2007 17:50

Its not that Geneforge 4 is a "bad" game but its just the same as the ones that came before it. The problem I have with spiderweb games is that they recycle their engines way too much and shy away from adding much to them. I do enjoy their games, but would like them to take a chance and try something new.

Eschalon when you start it up you feel like you are playing a professionaly developed game, everything screams top notch. Even though the graphics are not the greatest in the world they are lght years ahead of Spiderweb games. I enjoy the lighting as well as well as the descriptive texts. Overall, I have enjoyed Basilisk games commitment to its fans more then I have spiderweb, which is rather lacking.

The excuse of keeping the download small for spiderweb games is not as big a deal as wehn t heir games first came out.

Personally I have been playing Hellherron recently and was thrown off by the graphics but got past that and found a great game…now if that game could be updated to eschalon style graphics and better conversations it would be incredible.

crpgnut December 9th, 2007 18:42

I'll add my 2¢ to rune_74s. Eschalon is not quite as good as Exile 1 or Geneforge 1. It has better graphics and a little bit better character building system. However Exile 2-Avernum 4 are almost identical to Exile 1. The story changes a bit, not much, each time but the games play out almost exactly alike. The same with Geneforge 2-4. Jeff rehashes the same graphics, engine, and even characters that each game seems to be the same as the others. There is no innovation in the followup games. I would encourage new buyers of Spiderweb games to just buy one game in each series. You'll get 90% of what's in all of them, in any one.


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