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JDR13 March 11th, 2009 23:46

Most ridiculous battle ever?
 
I'm starting to lose more and more respect for this game every time I reload after getting killed by that $%*&@ Hellhound, which is about a dozen times now.

Absolute piss poor game design by the devs on that particular battle.



*Edit* I guess I just needed to vent. ;) I finally whacked that bastard on the first try after posting that. Still, that was one of the most frustrating fights I've ever experienced in an crpg.

sege March 12th, 2009 00:37

You're right actually, This was as far as i got on my second play through before giving up.
IMO it is one of the more frustrating parts of the game, there are probably occasionally others, but this is right up there. So now you've passed it, you should find things get much better :)

JDR13 March 12th, 2009 02:51

The funny thing is that I killed him with 1 blow after stunning him with Aard, pure luck I guess. Not before I had to go back to an earlier save and spend some of my talents differently though…

xSamhainx March 12th, 2009 03:54

Everyone complains about that fight, it took me a few tries myself. If I remember correctly I think I got lucky w/ an out of the blue whallop as well.

Aard will serve you well. The only sign i really consistently used due to it's incapacitating and crowd control purposes - used it from start to finish.

When in doubt, blast an Aard at them!

stealth March 12th, 2009 07:30

When the game came out I too had lots of trouble beating the Hellhound. Yesterday though I bet him the first time around. No use of Aard but perhaps the diamond dust applied to my blade helped ;)

RivianWitch March 12th, 2009 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1060938124)
The funny thing is that I killed him with 1 blow after stunning him with Aard, pure luck I guess. Not before I had to go back to an earlier save and spend some of my talents differently though…

Aardt is the main trick with The Beast. Also, you must focus only on the Beast, - ignore the pups. If you kill the pups, The Beast will respawn them. If you kill the beast, nothing respawns.

Yes, diamond dust on your weapon, and as many potions as you can quickly get in, -start with Swallow, Blizzard and/or Tawny owl if you have time. Do the ritual of power before you enter the cave where Abigail is.

txa1265 March 12th, 2009 10:19

I remember it being hard but not 'frustrating enough to want to quit' hard …

Prime Junta March 12th, 2009 10:26

Yup, that's the absolute low point of the game. Terrible design, and I'm very surprised they didn't fix it for the EE.

There's one thing about it that you can figure out that makes it a lot easier, though.

Spoiler

Prime Junta March 12th, 2009 10:30

Re Signs, yeah, Aard is good, but it's not unbalanced-good. Igni rules against some rather tough critters that are especially vulnerable to fire, and Yrden is great for weakening some otherwise tough opponents. I didn't bother much with Axii, but I'd expect it to be quite useful against humans and such.

JDR13 March 12th, 2009 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by RivianWitch (Post 1060938151)
Yes, diamond dust on your weapon, and as many potions as you can quickly get in, -start with Swallow, Blizzard and/or Tawny owl if you have time. Do the ritual of power before you enter the cave where Abigail is.


I actually tried doing Swallow, Blizzard and Tawny Owl. It's not possible to do all 3 at the same time, at least not at that point in the game. It pushed my toxicity level too high.

I haven't discovered any diamond dust yet.

fatBastard() March 12th, 2009 16:11

I remember using an oil for the blade … spectral something-or-other I think it was called. It did wonders for the amount of damage I could deal out against the beast and essentially won me the match. However, on my first attempt I didn't have any with me so I had to backtrack quite a bit to the point just before the whole beast encounter thread was set into motion.

I was ready to delete the game and throw it out at that point but people kept saying how great The Witcher was so I retraced my steps up until the beast encounter and finally beat it … man, am I glad I rode it out and experienced the rest of this gem.

Actually, I think I'm ready for a replay about now even though I'm not looking forward to the beast encounter :uhoh:

Prime Junta March 12th, 2009 16:30

You can get specter oil, though. That makes a big difference.

Cm March 14th, 2009 18:18

Based on game knowledge and level at that point I do agree it is a bit over the top. I think the point was to force you to use potions, blade oils and or any combination of buffs you had as well as the strategy of killing only two of it's minions and then work on it. The final training for what you should do in-game with other hard battles.

Dasale March 14th, 2009 20:02

A nice trick that worked for me is to never attack directly the beast but only the summons and use group fights. And if there's no summon run waiting some spawn. Add some potions use and this does the trick.

That's still a weird design including the horrible sequence management linked to the fight.


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