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Garrett December 21st, 2006 11:57

Gothic 3 - patch 1.12 still not ready
 
An early release of the patch 1.12 on PB's Site has been buggy as WorldOfGothic reports. Also, the fix list dows not address all the issues people were waiting for and PB promised to fix, so look out for more patches probably.
More information.

hwfanatic December 21st, 2006 11:57

So, it takes 55 days to fix a few minor, unimportant gameplay-wise issues, and then we find out they aren't even fixed properly? Nice…

ShadowMoses December 21st, 2006 12:05

Yeah it's getting a bit frustrating. I guess they wanted to fix more but in the end couldn't and so are releasing what they have.

Gorath December 21st, 2006 12:11

Quote:

I. TECHNICAL BUGFIXES
==================

Build 1.12
————-
- Fixed ambient sound bug
- Sound occlusion improved
- Several physics and character movement bugs fixed
- Inventory exploit fixed
- Camera behaviour improved

II. CONTENT FIXES
==============

Build 1.12
————-
- Several mission logs fixed
- Several small quest bugs fixed

III. CHANGES/ADDITIONS
===================

Build 1.12
————-
- NPCs don\'t die as quickly as before when fighting monsters. This helps party members to survive
The fix list is not detailed enough to say if only a few issues were fixed. I wonder why PB doesnīt at least try to look good?
The fixed sound bug, the corrected sound volume, repaired quests and the stronger NPCs are major improvements IMHO.

Gorath December 21st, 2006 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowMoses (Post 13383)
Yeah it's getting a bit frustrating. I guess they wanted to fix more but in the end couldn't and so are releasing what they have.

I would see it positively. Theyīre probably closing down the studio over Christmas and they wanted to have a patch out before.

hwfanatic December 21st, 2006 12:14

And we all read that neither of those fixes work. Oh, wait, that was the leaked patch. Maybe the real patch will fix the whole game and make Gothic 3 a pleasurable game…

Not.

Dhruin December 21st, 2006 12:20

It's still disappointing, Gorath. They need to state their intentions, even if they use vague language.

Garrett December 21st, 2006 12:20

Yes, Gorath, defender of PB…
PB should write a book "How to ruin a brand in 8 weeks"

Gorath December 21st, 2006 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhruin (Post 13391)
It's still disappointing, Gorath. They need to state their intentions, even if they use vague language.

Agreed. Their patch policy and the communication related to it is hard to understand.

Gorath December 21st, 2006 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by hwfanatic (Post 13388)
And we all read that neither of those fixes work. Oh, wait, that was the leaked patch. Maybe the real patch will fix the whole game and make Gothic 3 a pleasurable game…

Not.

You must have read something else than me then. ;)
G3 already is a good game. Just not as good as we all hoped it would be.

Gorath December 21st, 2006 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrett (Post 13392)
Yes, Gorath, defender of PB…
PB should write a book "How to ruin a brand in 8 weeks"

Maybe I should learn from you how mindless bashing is done? ;)

Sure, they ruin the Gothic brand. But itīs their brand, they can ruin it in every way they want.

JonNik December 21st, 2006 13:04

Hmm This link seems to have two extra items/fixes listed:

http://www.worldofgothic.de/dl/index…ds&file_id=262

5) Tuning: weniger Ausdauerverlust beim Parieren
6) 1-Schlag-tot Bug gefixt

Anyone care to translate ? Babelfish was not very enlightening…
P.S
Never mind wasn't hard to figure out…

lostnumber December 21st, 2006 16:39

Tuning less perseverance loss with the Parieren impact dead nose fixed - that’s what I got from Babel fish… I guess that my confusion means that I am stupid, really though, what the hell is this referring to? Rosetta stone here I come…

Elwro December 21st, 2006 17:30

I guess it means that after the patch you get a lower hit to your Endurance when you parry a blow.

Moriendor December 21st, 2006 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elwro (Post 13446)
I guess it means that after the patch you get a lower hit to your Endurance when you parry a blow.

Yep. That's it. And the 2nd one means that the 1-hit kill bug has been fixed.

curious December 21st, 2006 20:21

exactly what combat needed!
gorath stated it well its pirahna bytes game.
who has the problem though people who enjoyed the game, like myself for a full month, or those who keep waiting (counting the days) 'til there next chance (new thread) to complain. don't worry santas got coal for you as well.

Garrett December 22nd, 2006 03:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorath (Post 13396)
Maybe I should learn from you how mindless bashing is done? ;)

Sure, they ruin the Gothic brand. But itīs their brand, they can ruin it in every way they want.

We have discussed this a long time ago and I will not go down to meet your standards again. I have never done any mindless bashing at all to any game - period! And you will stop your comments accusinf me of this in the future!!!

JonNik December 22nd, 2006 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by curious (Post 13467)
exactly what combat needed!

I'll have to agree.

This and the modifications to NPC's vs Monsters actually make things a whole
lot better. i.e as a test I tried leading a Boar to a 3 person rebel camp. In my
old tests the boar managed to at least wound severely or even kill one of them
(yes, even after stunlock removal). The Rebels also had a "round robin" sort of
attacking, one attacking (or mostly staying frozen in front of) and the other
2 backing off etc.

Now the battle was much more fluid with all of them simultaneously attacking.
being on the move all the time and ending with the boar dead and the rebels
barely scratched.

After that I took on the cowardly goblins nearby to test the parry. It works
now making the combat more tactical and enjoyable. Unfortunately the crash
rate due to the mem leak remains the same… I wonder if setting Resource
cache to medium might help a bit… The weird thing though is that when It
crashes mem utilization is about 1,72 GB with at least 300 mb free !?

HiddenX December 22nd, 2006 09:06

@JonNik

The Gothic 3 memory problem has something to do with the fact, that one windows application can only address 2GB under winxp 32.

You can hack an application to use 3GB by setting the LargeAddressAware (LAA) - bit.

Under winxp 32 you have to set the /3GB switch and /USERVA=2800 in the boot.ini file, too. Under winxp 64 there's no need to change the boot.ini.

I made a LAA-hack for Gothic 3, that is popular in Germany:
http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showp…4&postcount=25

JonNik December 22nd, 2006 09:30

I assume you mean that G3 needs more than 2 GB total memory when this happens
(RAM + Pagefile) ?!

That would mean that me having 2GB Ram and having it crashing with
300 MB of that free means that the game tries to allocate more than that
when Loading ?

I d more likely place my bets on Bad implementation on their memory
management module But I'll most certainly try your solution (since I
assume you already had some success for recommending it).

Thanks.


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