Originally Posted by rune_74 
None of those games you mentioned had any ultima 7 vibe to me at all….maybe arx fatalis and ultima underworld, but surely not ultima 7.
I don't always have the time to post as articulatley as I'd like.
But now that you contest what I wrote and I have a moment, I'll better explain.
By 'U7 Vibe' I guess I really mean 'some elements in common with U7.'
Arx Fatalis, while more similar to UU than U7 still shared the 'object manipulation' feature of U7 - even moreso. You could bake a pie and perform other object combinations. So that is where I get the 'U7 vibe' for that game.
Gothics 1 & 2 are a little more subtle. But G1 & G2 gave me that same satisfaction of exploration that U7 did. So that is why I think G1 & G2 have a 'U7 Vibe.'