I’ve read a little online about your MusicVR project started early in the 90’s. I suppose in that situation you were ahead of technology? [MusicVR was a project set up by Mike to create computer games that were a real-time virtual reality experience using imagery and music.]

Yeah, I can’t believe it! When I made it I had this huge, at the time, supercomputer called an Onyx that was the size of a fridge. Now my little kids little laptop can do it no problem. Fantastic really.

Is that project on ice then?

Yes. I’d love to get back involved in it but computer games are just so boring, mostly driving cars fast and shooting people, which I didn’t want to do. I had my version of shooting - which probably sounds ridiculous now – where you’d throw seeds to grow things. It wasn’t very popular. Not enough adrenalin in it.