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August 23rd, 2012, 19:53
Originally Posted by DArtagnan View Post
They didn't willfully commit to being insulted by strangers on a public website - and they have no way to defend themselves. I understand that you think that's "less unfair" when people become "public" - but I don't agree.

But I could have mentioned any kind of stranger you know nothing about, like when you making sweeping judgments about people who work in the same building as you, or when you make judgments about a friend of a friend that you heard did this or that.

We all do this to some extent, and you're certainly not one to hold back claims about strangers. I don't think we need to do much digging for that.

Bottom line is that your children weren't affected negatively in any way whatsoever. Beyond that, Ubereil most certainly didn't intend for them to get affected in any way whatsoever.

YOU were affected because you irrationally felt your children were "attacked" - and that's YOUR mistake.

Now, whether or not Ubereil had a point - I can't say. I won't claim what he did was right or respectful - because it most likely wasn't.

But your reaction was over the top, and that's all there is to it. I bet you know this, you just won't acknowledge it.

Oh, and for the record, I don't think you're a bad parent. I think you're just as loving as the average parent is. I also think you're selling yourself short with your reactionary caveman like presentation of yourself here - and I know with absolute certainty that you're not REALLY limited to that image. But you must understand that most people won't pick up on that - and they will respond to you based on what information you give them.

It's most likely a remnant of the old-fashioned "male ideal" that you find impossible to shred without losing something. I could be wrong, but that's how I read you.
So politicians don't deserve to be insulted by strangers on an internet forum because they can't defend themselves but it would be ok to insult DTEs children because they wouldn't be harmed by it?
Exactly how much do you think that insults on the internet affect your average politician? Probably about as much as insulting DTEs children will affect them. Actually, probably less.
And yes, politicians made a choice to publicly state their view knowing that not everyone agrees with them, knowing that some of those people will be vocal about it, and knowing that some of them will be assholes. If they couldn't foresee that someone would talk shit about them somewhere then they are probably to stupid to be in politics in the first place.
You don't see anything wrong with your reasoning here?

(I'm not taking any sides on that other thread, don't want to stick my head in to that can of worms.)

conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evil, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others.

rational, adj. Devoid of all delusions save those of observation, experience and reflection.
-Ambrose Bierce, The Devils Dictionary
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