the thing that's working against D3's "perpetual endgame" is the times in which it's released. Action rpgs werent exactly new when D2 came out, but there werent a thousand of them on the market. Grinding away for the sake of grinding away just isnt what it used to be.

The genre itself has just grown old. I cant play Torchlight 2 as fanatically either as I would have ten years ago, and that's a good game too.