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December 15th, 2012, 20:55
Originally Posted by JemyM View Post
"Happens" is binary. How about using "happen often" in your reasoning?

Murder with a firearm:
United States: 9,369
Germany: 269
Canada: 144
Spain: 97
Sweden: 58
Japan: 47
Denmark: 14
Ireland: 12
I meant since the dawn of man, not just in the current time. But even if we discuss it that way, first we should include all kinds of homicide, not just those done with firearm and second, we have to give statics based on rate, not numbers.
In the recent year, US is ranked #108 based on intentional homicide rate and just based on numbers, it's #14.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of…_homicide_rate
I don't deny the fact that in countries where people are free to have a gun, violence happens more often. However, I believe in the saying: guns don't kill people, people do. If homicide rate is high in a place, there's something wrong. But freedom of carrying guns is not the main reason.

Also Some countries and cultures are just basically more violent than the others. ( compare Mexico and Switzerland for example ) So when gun carrying is permitted in the first place, it's mostly because of the violent nature itself.
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