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December 20th, 2012, 14:11
Originally Posted by DArtagnan View Post
As for what we "Euros" like, I'm pretty sure it's very much the same thing. Nobody fully trusts the government - because you'd have to be a fool to trust people in power. But we need government to make civilization work until we're ready to do without it - which is very, very far into the future.
Originally Posted by JemyM View Post
Those who argue that "freedom" means abolishing government aims to abolish the freedom that government protects.
Originally Posted by GhanBuriGhan View Post
This was really a remarkably dumb comparison, especially in an argument that uses the word "logic".
What you guys also have to remember is that the generalities he speaks of represent a group that:
- Claims to want religious freedom yet seeks to exclude any notice of non-Christian holidays in December.
- Claims to want equal rights yet seeks to discriminate based on gender, race, country of origin and sexual preference.
- Violently opposes Sharia based on not wanting religious laws … yet seeks to have Bible based lawmaking.
- Claims to want government out of our lives … except where it involves legislating morality.
- Complains about jobs overseas, yet seeks to abolish science education - and worse yet wants to replace it with medieval church teachings.
… and so on …

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