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December 17th, 2013, 22:28
Originally Posted by Grangokhan View Post
I'd say you're motivated by emotional thought although you've presented your argument in a rather pretentious way (which is common with many non-believers). It's fine having doubts. It's not fine when you pretend to hold absolute knowledge which is where it becomes apparent that you're just like the fundamentalists you preach against.

Asides for there being archaeological evidence (and even genetic evidence in one instance) of events in the Bible there are the fulfilled prophecies to support the divine inspiration.…-of-the-bible/…riesthood.html…udah-king.html…21103227160833…iglath_pileser…ry?id=17884533…y-of-the-bible

"Those prophecies were written after the events occurred!"

Not according to the Dead Sea Scrolls which have been carbon dated.

But the fundamental part of Christianity is the existence of Jesus which has been proven.…-jesus-christ/

"But that's a Christian site!"

Okay, here's one from a secular university:…naccounts.html

"You're biased!"

Not really. I'm a Christian arian deist. Also somewhat of a universalist although I believe (based on all the archaeological evidence) that Christianity holds the greater truths than any other religion. It's atheists who, therefore, are being the closed-minded ones as I've accepted the truths of all religions and denied the lies. The atheist encounters one lie in religion (mainly the Genesis story) and denies the majority of the truths because of that or they have an bad experience (i.e death of family member) and become influenced by that. Some eventually begin using science or rationality to reconcile with what is really an irrational belief. Bad experiences drove me to deism because I saw prayer did nothing but I was not foolish enough to denounce thousands of years of logical arguments and grounded philosophy to spite God. Deductive reasoning has made it clear that atheism isn't really a grounded world-view as it denies Cause and Effect and other logical arguments/laws/consistencies and bases itself on mathematical impossibilities requiring huge blind faith to believe in.

Pretentious, Moi? Really it's astounding that you can accuse me of pretentiousness and then reel out a load of totally pretentious bullcrap such as that without batting an eye lash.

And don't give me that crap about believing on "archaeological evidence" that you've managed to dredge from the deepest recesses of internet weirdness. You believe because you haven't the gumption to accept the reality of your own unimportance with respect to the universe and your own impending demise; probably assisted, because you grew up surrounded by something akin to the particular fantasy that you now subscribe to.

I'm not a great fan of being dead either, it's outrageous! But unfortunately I don't have any great choice in how the universe actually is and it's going to happen whether I like it or not. Maybe I'll just get drunk or take some hallucinogenic drugs - that's at least a much more honest approach than fooling myself that I'm going to live with baby jesus for eternity.
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