@abbaon- you're right, but that probably isn't going to stop it. Besides, if we had a concrete definition of RPG, that would eliminate not only debate about the definition but also ~1/4 of our total posts which argue, "game X is/isn't a true CRPG". Where's the fun in eliminating all that frivolous hand-wringing, particularly since I (of course) am the ultimate authority on such determinations?