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December 6th, 2007, 13:53
Originally Posted by narpet View Post
Don't worry… you can't upset me with a valid discussion
Always best to check, especially when it's a discussion with someone whose viewpoints I just don't really get

Sorry, but my children are 9 and 6… far to young to be making very adult decisions, like the belief in God. You may disagree, but that's your choice and you can raise your children any way you want. I will raise them the way I believe is right, and the way that God wants me to raise them… then when they are 18 they can choose to follow the path I have set before them, or not… and I will respect that.
What's that quote . . . "Give me a boy until the age of seven and I shall show you the man" or something like that . . . It's a tricky issue really, I agree that faith can be a fundamental aspect of someone's life and as such is far too important a decision to be left to a child. But then early imprints have such power to shape a person's deep psyche that if the decision is made for them as a child then the imprints may be too powerful for them to be able to choose by the time they're adults. But I don't have any concept of a way that people should be raised or a path they should follow so I doubt I'd ever have the certainty necessary to take anyone elses choices for them

That's what my parents did… and (this is a long story, but I'll try to keep it brief)… when I reached the age of 18 I chose to abandon that faith that was taught to me. I became a heavy drug user (in the name of enlightening myself… in other words I didn't do drugs strictly for recreation). I lived a liberal, "do what you want" life… it almost killed me (literally). When all of that was over, and I had time to re-evaluate where I was in life, I had my parents' (and thus, the bible's) teachings to fall back on. If I had not had that, I would have continued to spiral… and I WOULD be dead today. Guaranteed.

Children who don't have a strong moral basis to fall back on risk a greater chance of never coming back from addictions, and destructive behavior. You can dispute that if you like… but I have studied it extensively (remember my first profession was psychology), and I see it in young adults all the time.
I'm a little confused here - did your parents do the same as you're doing or did they take the liberal approach that you don't want to take?

If the former do you think that you might have gone on that journey of self discovery precisely because they hadn't given you the chance to choose and so when you hit 18 you weren't sure who you were and needed to find out? If the latter, doesn't your faith mean more to you now because you chose that path yourself rather than having it chosen for you?

Either way, out of curiosity which drugs? I've had a phase myself with LSD and 2cb (the latter probably more recreational) and dabbled with mescaline and mushrooms, but never liked ketamine and never been keen enough on self discovery to get involved with DMT or similar tryptamines.

I'm not going to read the books because I have wayyy too much other fantasy to read that isn't written by a writer with a definite, outspoken agenda toward God (I don't care about religion… just God).

Once again… just my opinion
A shame, they're definitely well above average, and as said his agenda is towards the religions, not towards God, at least in the books and a couple of interviews with him that I've read, although I'm sure there are a lot of other articles where his views are either misinterpreted or actively misrepresented.
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