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That does happen. From time to time.
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A Palestinian obstetrician who specialises in treating infertility, [Dr Izeldeen Abuelaish] lives in the Jabaliya camp in the Gaza Strip, but used to work part-time in Israel helping Jewish women to have babies.
He also had a clinic in Gaza, taught medical school students there and arranged for seriously ill Palestinian patients to be treated in Israel.
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"My daughters were just sitting quietly talking in their bedroom at home," Dr Izeldeen Abuelaish told me on the phone between sobs.
"I had just left the room, carrying my youngest son on my shoulders. Then a shell came through the wall.
"I rushed back to find their dead bodies - or rather parts of their bodies - strewn all over the room. One was still sitting in a chair but she had no legs.
"Tell me why did they have to die? Who gave the order to fire on my house?"
Abu Obeida, a spokesman for Hamas' military wing, claimed at a news conference Monday that Hamas fighters had killed 80 Israeli soldiers and shot down four helicopters. "We did not kneel down, we did not surrender, we did not raise the white flag," he said.
And the video has subs, so you can watch it... Just click on the triangle and turn on captions.
I mostly agree except for the remote possibility of a real cease-fire this time.
It's not all that often you come across a photo of a war crime in progress:
That's white phosphorus being used in a populated area against human targets. This is unequivocally forbidden by the Geneva conventions.
As I said in the earlier thread, stuff like this is first to go out the window if it's militarily expedient -- and it makes all the whining about Hamas's bottle rockets seem just a wee bit hypocritical.
The International Red Cross said Tuesday that Israel has fired white phosphorus shells in its offensive in the Gaza Strip, but has no evidence to suggest it is being used improperly or illegally.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1231866575577
PS also israel didn't sign that treaty... so even though UN treaties are non-enforceable to begin with.... they didn't even sign it....
http://www.unog.ch/__80256ee6005859...0c?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=1,2,3#_Section1
As I've said, I don't think much of the Geneva conventions -- I don't believe they're given any more than lip service in the kinds of wars we're fighting now anyway,
Depends on who you mean by 'we' you don't see European, Canadian or Australian militaries accused of contraventions.
Do you have any idea how many cases have gone thru those agencies that get patently ignored? Heck, the US is currently ignoring several decisions against it. You actually believe the UN can bring the big stick? Bah. A 103-year-old man can bring better wood to the party....and they are enforceable (both the ICJ and the ICCC deal with war crimes)