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And I think the Bible is honestly not that much better then Mein Kampf.
Oh come on, lets not Godwin this discussion too soon!
Any book which encourages/accepts about slavery,
The point about slavery is a point about humility and love. In other words, love even those that take away your freedom since infinite freedom awaits you in heaven. Or so some believe...
stoning women, stoning people for working on certain days of the week, doesn't seem to mind genocide,
The old testament is all about the stoning. From what we've read of Jesus' teachings, according to him, such things are a bit passe. "Resist not evil" for example. In other words, don't even strike at those that would commit evil against you yourself. I actually don't understand why so many people can use the new testament as a justification for violence since it is riddled with non-violent messages.
etc is a pretty bad place to draw moral inspiration from. It doesn't matter how evil you are, accept Jesus into your heart and he'll forgive you!
Yeah, it's pretty amazing isn't it? Anyone that truly wishes forgiveness and will atone, can receive it.
I guess if you consider Christian theology an awesome subject then yes there are still people doing decent stuff. I think it's somewhat similar to calling yourself an expert in unicorn husbandry, however.
I meant doing decent stuff as in doing charitable works and the like.
Well, with just about three minutes of searching, I'd say these:
"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh." (1 Peter 2:18)
This is that old virtue from the Ultima series that no one likes: Humility. After all, kill your master on earth and what good will it do besides causing you to murder? The real reward is in heaven.
"Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ; not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart, with goodwill doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free. And you, masters, do the same things to them, giving up threatening, knowing that your own Master also is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him" (Ephesians 6:5-9)
Again, humility and a stay of anger in return for eternal heaven. But that's stuff from Paul and I don't know how much influence he should have even been given on the New Testament...
It's evil. Sorry, if I see someone raping a woman in a street I'm going to stop him, with lethal force if necessary. If someone comes at me with a knife I'm not going to turn the other cheek. If the Hutu ever decided it would be a good idea to try and wipe out the Tutsi again in Rwanda it would be evil of us to sit back and smile because your god says it's a great thing to sit idly by. Pacifism is not a virtue.
Yeah, pacifism is pretty crazy shit isn't it? But it's apparently what Jesus preached, perhaps because it was felt that someone with true faith would understand that whatever crime was committed to them in life, would be repaid infinitely after life.
God wouldn't want Christians to sit idly by, he'd want you to stand in the way of violence, such as blacks did during the civil rights movement. Pacifism can do a lot. Where as violence... well take a look at the Palestinians and Israelis... or for that matter Iraq and Afghanistan.
And it says, therefor, that all humans will suffer for eternity in hell unless they willingly turn over their souls over to some guy who gets to arbitrarily decide what is right and wrong. I'll forgive my wife for adultery after the divorce and if some guy starts fighting me I'm going to fight back, not sit back meekly and let my wife screw the pool boy and allow the tough guy to turn my face into a work of Picasso. So yes, it is pretty tough stuff to do. So is jumping off of a bridge.
But committing suicide is a sin
Which is why I have to worship and praise god and insulting him is a wicked sin enough to condemn me to hell. And if I don't want to worship and praise God I get to spend an eternity suffering. Yeah, this god guy sounds like a real tolerant and non-egotistical fellow. I don't recall god ever striking down anyone for worshipping him or building nice things to him
The golden calf.
- I do recall him striking down people for choosing to endorse his competition, though. And then saying it's great to kill all the remaining men, women, and boys. But keep the virgin girls though, so you can rape them to make more followers.
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