Actively discouraging involving the police, which is what they are doing even if they say it ok to involve with rape cases, IS acting against their imprisonment.
If not helping the police is protecting criminals then I'm a murderer for not giving all my money to charity. And that's pretty much what the movement is doing: not helping the police.
They also do better work than a lot of Western countries. Read up on the case of Amanda Knox. As bad as US Police departments may be, the vast majority of the mistakes in that investigation never would have occurred in the US.
If you compare youself to a country that's voted a guy involved in multiple corruption scandals into office three times you should probably feel shame if you didn't end up being better managed than they are.
But yeah, there are countries with worth policing than the US. But that doesn't mean there are quite a number of serious flaws in your policing.
If he is in jail, at least until he gets out, he will not be raping anyone (anyone not in prison at least). Again, I ask for even ONE legitimate phycologist that believes rapists can be reformed with counseling, Hell, I'll settle for a legitimate study.[/url]
Were you going to say anything here?
They share similarities, but I think there are significant differences in the motivations, at least for rapes that occur against strangers.
Then again, most rapes by far are by someone you know (source). That rape usually means stranger rape is a myth.
While I do not advocate the abuse of prisoners (either by prison staff or other inmates), there is a big difference between a person that is a convicted criminal and person walking down the street.
Like I said, rape is ususally committed by someone who knows you. Usually not when you're walking down the street either.
I already did. Any person in prison won't be raping anyone outside of prison during their stay.
They'll be raping though, so putting them in prison won't stop rape.
I never said it would permanently fix the problem, it won't. And no evidence exists that counseling will either.
Evidence does exist that fixing a similiar crime is more likely to fix it permanently than prison alone though.
How are you going to do that without putting them in prison? I'm not against trying counseling while they are locked up BTW.
Well, prison is one alternative. Another is electronic tagging that monitors that the criminal won't be placed in situations where s/he might rape (along with warnings of what might happen if they even suspect that this isn't enough).
Most rapists don't rape because they think the person is asking for it. It's not like they were walking down the street minding their own business and saw a person dressed scantily and thought 'Wow, that person wants me to rape her!'
I'm not arguing with you about the cause. I was merely saying that whatever the attitude that caused the rapists to rape (without the idea that it's ok to rape you won't rape), questioning it will work better than not questioning it.
Domestic abuse is often the result of abuse previously received by the abuser, from what I understand. Additionally, it stems from a desire to control a specific person. Rape generally is not about a specific person. Now to be clear, I'm talking about violent rape of at least relative strangers, not so-called 'date rape' that occurs between people that are familiar with each other.
And, as I mentioned, most rapes are committed by aquaintances. Though I suspect stranger rapists are a bit like heavy criminals - beyond help. They're so set in their mindset there no way to get them out of it.
Castration is pretty much the only thing that HAS been proven to work consistently. That said, I think it should be reserved for repeat offenders. If someone is convicted of multiple rapes at different timer intervals to different victims, there's pretty much no doubt that a person was unfairly convicted. A single rape charge, though lessened with DNA testing, is much more ripe for being overturned.
The thing is, castration isn't given to work either. There might not be that high a reoffence rate (1-10 %), but it's not 0. I suspect that if we go with councelling to find ways to deal with sexual desire without raping (those are the ones who'll be fixed by castration), the reoffence rate will slowly move towards the same numbers (it might not reach them, but the better we get the closer it will become). Those it won't fix are those that don't do it out of sexual desire.
Sure, castration is a simple fix. But have we really tried the alternatives yet?
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