With respect to your friend Skaven the ROC would probably have lost China's seat at the UN anyway much as the Taliban was edging out the Northern Alliance from Afghanistan's representative positions prior to the war.
Uggg, thanks for comparing Taiwan's status with the Taliban's status
. Your probably right in any case because China was becoming more of a power and with Nixon's upcoming visits to China, it was only a matter of time before the UN bowed to the PROC. Still doesn't negate the fact that before they were a country and after *poof* they disappeared off the face of the Earth. In my previous post I mentioned the Treaty of Taipei and as I said in that Japan never said who gets Taiwan and since Taiwan was apart of the ROC then the ROC has control.
Finally the 'is Taiwan a country?' debate is a non-starter as Taiwan doesn’t claim to be. It has many of the characteristics of an independent state and I personally believe deserves to be one (if only because I think its democracy is a good example to a lot of the other countries in the region and you have to admire a people who cam manage that with the PRC staring at them over the straits) but unless and until Taiwan declares independence the question is moot.
Uh-huh and if they formally declare independence then they force the USA's hand and then we have WAR for EVERYONE. So which is wiser having a name that doesn't mean anything or war? Right now their status IS the status quo, which is this murky area in which we find ourselves now.
Let's look at it from a different point a view, a more common sense point of view. Does Taiwan have a military, police force, laws, legal representatives, taxes, borders and heck they even have their own stock exchange. So tell me how is that not a country? Because PRC says so? or because the UN and other countries can't make China upset?
Here is a list of the countries that do recognize Taiwan as a country.
Republic of Nauru
Saint Christopher and Nevis
Burkina Faso
Republic of El Salvador
Belize
Palau
The Marshall Islands
Republic of Gambia
Republic of Honduras
Solomon Islands
Republic of Paraguay
Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe
Republic of Panama
Dominican Republic
Kingdom of Swaziland
Republic of Guatemala
Republic of Haiti
Republic of Nicaragua
Apostolic Nunciature
The Vatican
Most are third world countries (Vatican excluded) and most (Vatican excluded) only recognize Taiwan because they send them a lot of aid and I do mean A LOT. The point being here is that there are countries that do recognize Taiwan and by flat out saying that Taiwan is not a country is just plain false. It's a nice grey "safe" area.
As a funny side note, whenever I have to choose what country I'm in when installing a program or signing up online, they always have the country Taiwan. The software devs must recognize Taiwan as a country
Yes, it is -- which also means that it's far more complex than simply painting the PRC as yet another expansionist Yellow Peril intent on gobbling up its peaceful neighbors. Including India, it appears.
I'll remember that the next time China wants to do some saber rattling with military exercises. All of these military exercises, espcially since the previous Taiwanese president has been in office, has put me on edge with anything to do with China and it's global goals.
When did the US have control of Taiwan?
At the end of WWII. When Japan surrendered to the US. Taiwan was a part of Japan then. I'm guessing here because I never knew this fun fact until today. I thought I heard every theory out there but that one is new to me.