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November 25th, 2011, 02:58
I'm on, and I think JM and Peter are up as well, since I've spoken with them (we're all in game now in a HoX run).

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November 25th, 2011, 10:21
I'll be there as usual.

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November 25th, 2011, 14:03
Yesterday I found out that the own characters reputation seems to go up if one does already finished quests a second time - only at a harder level.

I'm currently replaying the Korthos Island quests on hard, and after that on elite.

I also found out that if one is buffed up through the shrines and whatnot from the guild ship, one can do level 5 quests with self having level 4 quite good. Well, it partly depends on the structure of the quest as well, but roaming through the House Denaith (spelling ?) sewers was a good challenge.

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November 26th, 2011, 08:38
Phurry Wizard build by request:

Code:
Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.11.01
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Phurry 
Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(20 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 272
Spell Points: 1680 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 5
Will: 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             10                 10                   10
Dexterity             8                  8                    8
Constitution         18                 20                   20
Intelligence         18                 25                   31
Wisdom                8                  8                    8
Charisma              8                  8                    8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               1                    10
Bluff                -1                    -1
Concentration         8                    28
Diplomacy             1                    10
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle                1                    10
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                 -1                    -1
Intimidate           -1                    -1
Jump                  2                    11
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently        -1                    -1
Open Lock            n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                    11
Search                4                    10
Spot                 -1                    10
Swim                  0                     7
Tumble                1                    10
Use Magic Device      1                    10

Level 1 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness


Level 2 (Wizard)


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 4 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT


Level 5 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 10 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Empower Spell


Level 11 (Wizard)


Level 12 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 13 (Wizard)


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 16 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Enlarge Spell
Enhancement: Wizard Master of Magic
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Maximizing I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Maximizing II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Charged Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Deadly Ice I
Enhancement: Deadly Shocks I
Enhancement: Deadly Kinetics I
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation I
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation I
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation II
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation III
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation V
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation VII
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation I
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation II
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation III
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation V
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation VII
Enhancement: Force Manipulation I
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration III
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Shroud of the Lich
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master I
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master II
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master III
Enhancement: Shroud of the Wraith
This build is focused on high DCs in enchantment and in necromancy; as well as being able to switch between Archmage or Pale Master as desired.

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November 26th, 2011, 10:08
Given the need for a trap-capable character, I've been working on a plan for a build. This would require trading my two GS Khopeshes in for a Greataxe, but I believe that I'll be fine there. I can use the profit from selling the two khopeshes and buy mats needed to help finish a tier III GS LitII axe. This will of course mean needing an sp item.

This particular build is a 16/2/2 Warchanter Bard build. Half-Elf, because I like the race, and low-30's reflex on a dex-dumped Bard is nice. Particularly with Evasion.

Code:
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Fireflash 
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Female
(2 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 16 Bard) 
Hit Points: 310
Spell Points: 500 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 15
Will: 12

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             16                 23                   24
Dexterity             8                 10                   10
Constitution         15                 17                   18
Intelligence         16                 18                   18
Wisdom                8                 10                   10
Charisma             14                 16                   16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     4
Bluff                 2                     3
Concentration         4                    25
Diplomacy             6                     7
Disable Device        7                    27
Haggle                6                     7
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            2                     7
Jump                  7                    11
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock             3                     7
Perform               n/a                  26
Repair                3                     4
Search                7                    28
Spot                  3                    24
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                3                     4
Use Magic Device      6                    26

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Bard)
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Spell (1): Focusing Chant


Level 5 (Bard)
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Rage


Level 7 (Bard)
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (1): Grease


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (3): Displacement
Spell (3): Haste


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow


Level 11 (Rogue)


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Spell (3): Good Hope


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (4): Dimension Door


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Bard)
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Spell (5): Greater Heroism


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Spell (5): Shadow Walk


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Otto's Irresistible Dance
Spell (5): Greater Dispel Magic
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Improved Spot I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
- A +6 CHA item will add 2 more to all my saves; I didn't bother with gear. So it's 16fort, 17reflex, 14will. FoM covers most Will saves, GH boosts everything by 4, and I have a Resistance 4 cloak, as well as my Parasitic Breastplate with the +10 Reflex, for a self-buffed total of 24 Fort, 31 Reflex, 22 Will. Hanging around Peter's Paladin will add at least one to that, more if he invests in pally aura saves bonus.

- My current gear layout adds 155hp to the total, for 465hp unbuffed. Rage and ship bring that to 505. Argo favor 515.

- SP is short, so it will be primarily used for rage and haste and GH and blur. However, in a spot I'll have quicken, maximize, and both cure masses so I can for a short while heal a group.

- This is a DPS build, built to buff and fight mostly. However, she has full ranks in spot, disable, and search, and with gear should be as capable as my Exploiter build is currently.

- It really only starts coming together around level 12. Once I have evasion, and my GS, and

- Max ranks in UMD for heal scrolls, three tiers of wand and scroll mastery for scroll healing. Gotta make an SP/CHA skills item. UMD should sit around 37 at cap, before GS item. 23 + 6 (cha mod) + 1 (VotM) + 4 (GH) + 3 (Cartouche).

- Maxed out Bard songs, all Damage, attack, and lingering enhancements, as well as a couple bravery ones for WCII.

- Still have my Healing Amp! Still want Levik's bracers out of Hound, as this character will likely not have the sp to rely on maximized cures.

The biggest issue I have is the loss of time and effort from crafting two GS blank khopeshes. I've not equipped them so they are still unbound. I need to price them, first. GS Greataxe was up for 650,000 plat; I believe I can get at least as much for each 'Pesh.

On the other hand, going THF means I have half the material requirements for my weapons, and can more readily afford a second accessory. I don't even need a GS CHA skills item that much, as 37UMD is enough for reliable raise and heal scrolls, and can swing wands of resist energy level 11, teleport scrolls, and so forth. So this is a very self-sufficient build, and capable of pulling two roles full time like my current Fireflash, and for emergencies capable of healing, also like Fireflash the Exploiter.

This is if we need a trap-capable character. Early on it will be rougher, as I don't have the low level gear, and won't have evasion for some time. Mid levels is where she starts to shine, and at high level I'll probably have to go anon like Aerii and Mirys have done as divines.

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November 26th, 2011, 16:42
My ranger can do a search; however, he is very limited in that, since I made the mistake of not putting enough points into his intelligence. I deeply regret that, especially since he cannot find hidden doors anymore (except in earlier "adventures"). In a few cases I could even see a writing "on" the wall (well, slightly behind it, in fact), but my character just couldn't find that BEEEEEP door …

Is there a way to export the character's stats like this ?

And, is there a way to see *all* of the checks in the chat window ? I'm very much interested in seeing detecting hidden doors checks …
And why a few levers (?) give me a message of "your wisdom is not high enough" or "your intelligence is not high enough", vice versa. This happens really, really rarely, but I did notice this a few times. Are there corresponding checks ?

And last - is there way to report minor bugs ? I have found a few translating issues …

There are a few things I still don't quite understand :

- I did The Lair Of Summoning two days ago. At one point, one must fight ice mephs, and there is a chest thre, too. I assume this should be available as a "bounty" for destroying them, but it jut doesn't get open. Do I need the ability to open mechanisms or so ?

- On the "beginner's island", there's the "Necromancer's Doom". What I don't understand is that you either get the possibility to rescue the maiden fair, or get the treasure, but not both. If I rescue her, I just cannot get to the chest. Is this intentional or a bug ?

This is what comes to my mind right now.

Edit : Do I have to create a new account for the forums if I want to go into he DDO forums ?

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November 26th, 2011, 18:40
I used a 3rd party tool called the DDO Character builder to make that, and many other, builds.

Lair of Summoning I think you need open lock to get that chest. It's optional actually, I usually skipped it.

You need to put every point into search, and carry a search item that boosts your skill as well. I even carry a +6 INT ring, as Search and disable are INT skills.

You can get the chest in Necromancer's Doom. There's three actually, one hidden, one hidden and with a tough for the level boss. The girl is the main objective, and you have to save her to complete the quest.

Some runes or levers require a minimum of one stat or another to open. This is to encourage grouping. You'll see that throughout the game, regardless of what you play.

There is a die roll that shows whenever you make a roll, for whatever reason. But other than that I don't know about making info show up in chat. Check your UI settings.

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November 26th, 2011, 20:13
Okay, thanks.

Edit : Does any character have a page like this ? http://my.ddo.com/character/khyber/alrikadaram/

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November 26th, 2011, 23:42
Yes, you can myddo everyone, however it doesn't always work right. Some characters show the wrong stats, or never update, or don't show at all.

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November 27th, 2011, 00:29
Alrik, get a wand of Detect Secret Doors and boost your UMD to use it.

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November 27th, 2011, 03:13
Yes, I'll do that.

I did some questing with Cm, She showed me basically how to work in/with a group, quest sharing and so on.

With her help I've got enough favour with the Coin Lords so that've got my "4th bag" now - and a level-up as well !

But now it's late, and I need some sleep. It's exactly a quarter past 2 in the night here now.

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Az, your Wiz build seems a little light on SP. My level 20 wiz has well over 2000sp; I used all of them several times yesterday!!

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Here are my new TR'ed builds:

Please give me some comments

Karl Peter Aspenstein. Warforged paladin 34-pt build

My paladin is going with two handed weapon with greatsword. He's a dps paladin with immunities and resistances in addition to a great deal of hitpoints. He will not be a tank, but very durable in fights. Charisma is not great, but still enough to get divine might IV for 8 extra damage per attack. Power attack will do 16 extra damage so this paladin will do a lot of damage, especially against evil outsiders. His main weapon will be a greensteel greatsword with holy, acid burst and mineral II with +2 exceptional constitution.

Code:
Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.11.02
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Karl Peter Aspenstein
Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(20 Paladin) 
Hit Points: 382
Spell Points: 300 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 30
Reflex: 16
Will: 18

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    21
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    20
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom                6                     8
Charisma             16                    22

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               0                    11
Bluff                 3                     6
Concentration         3                     6
Diplomacy             3                     6
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                     6
Heal                 -2                    -1
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            3                     6
Jump                  4                    12
Listen               -2                    -1
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     1
Spot                 -2                    -1
Swim                  3                     5
Tumble               n/a                    n/a
Use Magic Device      5                    17

{\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Charismatic Cloak \par Health Belt \par Ogre Power Bracers \par Wise Helm \par +5 Docent \par  \par Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I


Level 2 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I


Level 4 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II


Level 5 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 7 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I


Level 8 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II


Level 10 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I


Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II


Level 13 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II


Level 14 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III


Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II


Level 17 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III


Level 19 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Weapons of Good
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might IV

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Rolf Peter Manstein. Dwarven cleric 34-pt build

My cleric will primarily be a healer, but will also do some damage with spells. He doesn't intend to be a melee kind of cleric so strength is rather low. His main weapon will be a greensteel dwarven waraxe with holy, +1 and +2 exceptional wisdom. He's not great at turning undead either, but can do something. Turns are mainly for radiant burst and radiant aura

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Rolf Peter Manstein
Level 20 True Neutral Dwarf Male
(20 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 352
Spell Points: 1576 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 6
Will: 21

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             10                    12
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         18                    22
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom               18                    28
Charisma             10                    14

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               1                    12
Bluff                 0                     2
Concentration         8                    29
Diplomacy             0                     2
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     2
Heal                  4                    11
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            0                     2
Jump                  0                    11
Listen                4                     9
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     3
Spot                  4                     9
Swim                  0                     1
Tumble               n/a                    n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith I
Enhancement: Improved Heal I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I


Level 2 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I


Level 4 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II


Level 5 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith II
Enhancement: Improved Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I


Level 7 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II


Level 8 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning II


Level 10 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma II


Level 11 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning II


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III


Level 13 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II


Level 14 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II


Level 16 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 17 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration II


Level 19 (Cleric)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Intervention
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III

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November 27th, 2011, 07:49
If you come across a lever that requires a certain amount in a stat try having your hireling do it. A cleric works for wisdom based levers and probably a Wizard would work for intelligence based levers.
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Peter, why are you taking force of personality on a Paladin? You already get your CHA mod to your saves. Extend would give you more bang out of your short-term buffs for the sp cost.

How are you getting the 20CHA for DMIV? Items and enhancements don't count towards this total; only base, level ups, and tomes do. The best a WF can do without putting two points into CHA from level up is get a +4 CHA tome… which is extremely rare drop out of only the toughest raids. Raids that none of us have ever entered, and in fact only two characters in the guild are even flagged for one of them.

Also, why LoB? You get a free 1000pt heal out of Sov Host.

Corwin, that build is a Pale Master in it's posted form, though it is designed to be switched easily between PM and AM. AMV gives a total of 400sp, and a Archmagi item gives another 200. There's 600sp right there, and that's ignoring the fact that you probably too Improved Mental Toughness (105sp) that this build did not. On top of that, there's a +6 INT item that will boost sp further.

This is a DC-based build, not a nuking build like yours. The focus is on either instant-kills (Wail, FoD, CoD), or crowd control. It does both well.

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November 27th, 2011, 13:49
Originally Posted by guenthar View Post
If you come across a lever that requires a certain amount in a stat try having your hireling do it. A cleric works for wisdom based levers and probably a Wizard would work for intelligence based levers.
Thank you very much ! This is a great idea !

(Why didn't I think of it myself ? )

Edit : Sometimes, things are so small it's easy to overlook them …

When looking at the character screen, the one which shows which items the character wars, one can click on the head area to let the glasses be displayed at the character's model itself. There's also a chat command for that, but it works seemingly only for the glasses.

I have never seen it. I think Corwin pointed me to it several weeks ago, but I did not realize it. Plus, the room/space where one has to click into is so incredibly small it is almost "pixel hunting".

But what I found out that one can click into this area (tthe head area, to be exact) to let the headdress appear as well ! Now th9s is the secret ! I had thought that it was a bug that hats aren't properly displayed anymore since update 11, but I found out that hats or any kind of headdress ARE properly displayed - one just needs to switch the display on !

There is no option for that in the options menu; at least I couldn't find any.

Second, the same is true for what's called "embellishment", I think. If one clicks into the body area - like with the head area once ot twice - the full armor is being displayed, too. Don't know what the "embellishment" exactly means, since I think that this can only be bought (I found a special kind of vendor for that, I think it was in some armory) via the DDO shop.

I'm not sure about it, but there are three "click states" with the head now :

1 no display at all (no headdress + no glasses)
2 glasses only
3 headdress + glasses

I'm not sure about the armor as well. Since I didn't find any way the cape is displayed, I'm not surprised if there is another way of turning its display on which I have overlooked.

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Peter, why are you taking force of personality on a Paladin? You already get your CHA mod to your saves. Extend would give you more bang out of your short-term buffs for the sp cost.

How are you getting the 20CHA for DMIV? Items and enhancements don't count towards this total; only base, level ups, and tomes do. The best a WF can do without putting two points into CHA from level up is get a +4 CHA tome… which is extremely rare drop out of only the toughest raids. Raids that none of us have ever entered, and in fact only two characters in the guild are even flagged for one of them.

Also, why LoB? You get a free 1000pt heal out of Sov Host.
I was following a build, but I agree that force of personality is probably not needed for boosting the will save. So I swapped to extend at level 18. I might move around with the feats so I take extend earlier. I will see when I get spell points and notice the problem with not having extend.

LoB was also part of the build, but probably meant for a character who would tank. I saw the weapon type was greatsword and though +1 to hit was good (similar to weapon focus). I didn't like the advanced one though. Even though you get +4 to some stats you can't cast spells or be healed. I don't use Unyielding sovereignty much, but maybe I will more often on my WF. So I made the swap and will se how it goes. I can easily reset enhancements if I like to.

I get the DM IV by starting with 16 cha (actually maxing to 18 and then -2 due to being WF). Then I add a +2 tome at level 7 and I use level 16 and level 20 attribute add to add +1 to cha. That equals 20. If I get a +3 tome I will probably use level 20 for +1 str instead.

I feel that with this build I don't notice the -2 to cha that much. -2 to wis will hurt a bit, but I only need 14 to cast all spells. So I will only be able to cast spells once I can use a +3 or better wis item. I get that from 6 (start) and then +2 tome and +6 item. So I all lose is -1 to will saves, but I gain +2 con and a lot of immunities.

My build is very dependent upon getting the +2 supreme tome (+2 to all stats). So I feel that building a WF paladin is probably only good if you use a TR with 34-pt and tomes.

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November 27th, 2011, 17:40
@alrik:
/showhelmet on
/showhelmet off

I expect there's a /showgoggles as well, but I've never tried it to be sure. Most of us run helmet off since the models are kinda ugly and we'd rather show off the face/hair we chose.

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"/showgoggles" (translated) is there, definitively, but not "/showhelmet" (translated) - at least not in my UI.
My whole client is in my own language - including all chat commands !

Edit : Or I just haven't found it so far.

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