IGN - The Best RPGs of 2012

Following on from their other recent lists, IGN has The Best Role-Playing Games of 2012 - at least, according to them. Mass Effect 3, Diablo III, Game of Thrones, Reckoning, South Park, Torchlight 2, several jRPGs and, my personal choice, Risen 2 make the list:

Quick quote: "Risen's transformation into a swashbuckling pirate adventure hints at a more accessible approach to role-playing than Gothic developer Piranha Bytes usually takes."

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"Risen's transformation into a swashbuckling pirate adventure hints at a more accessible approach to role-playing than Gothic developer Piranha Bytes usually takes."

More accessible? Their games have never been exactly hardcore, have they? What's next on the list? The game plays itself while the "player" just stares at the monitor?

Because the game is based on pirates doesnt mean its watered down. If anything its unique for an rpg.

well I don't think he was talking gameplaywise, its just the setting, Jack sparrow is more trendy than some no name hero swinging a stick.
And sailing involves a bigger change of scenery.
Costumes too!

I expect Risen 2 to be the best, but who knows.

Originally Posted by CraigCWB
More accessible? Their games have never been exactly hardcore, have they? What's next on the list? The game plays itself while the "player" just stares at the monitor?

Unless you're one of those guys that thinks "hardcore"= stats & turn-based combat, I'd say PB's games are about as hardcore as you're going to find in a modern crpg.

Originally Posted by JDR13
Unless you're one of those guys that thinks "hardcore"= stats & turn-based combat, I'd say PB's games are about as hardcore as you're going to find in a modern crpg.

I agree. The witcher series does a good job too. Skyrim doesnt cut it, even though it is a good game.

"Best role playin games of 2012" ?
We have a proverb here, it goes like this : "Über ungelegte Eier gackern".
Literal translation would be : "to gaggle about unlaid eggs".

Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer
"Best role playin games of 2012" ?
We have a proverb here, it goes like this : "Über ungelegte Eier gackern".
Literal translation would be : "to gaggle about unlaid eggs".

Could you explain it please? Maybe it's just me, but I didn't understand it…

To put it another way, these guys are talking out of their ass. Marketing hype is all this is.

Originally Posted by Ball_Breaker
Could you explain it please? Maybe it's just me, but I didn't understand it…

"Don't count your chickens before they're hatched."

Originally Posted by Ball_Breaker
Could you explain it please? Maybe it's just me, but I didn't understand it…

Hype != reality

Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer
"Best role playin games of 2012" ?
We have a proverb here, it goes like this : "Über ungelegte Eier gackern".

Perhaps "counting chickens before they're hatched"?

I agree with the sentiment - can't see anything especially exciting on the horizon.

Originally Posted by Ball_Breaker
Could you explain it please? Maybe it's just me, but I didn't understand it…

My impression was that they are already claiming RPGs of 2012 to be the "best ones" of which they actually couldn't say too much, because they just aren't released yet.

It's like … saying that "these games" are GOTY's for2013 - so to say.

Originally Posted by Gaxkang
Perhaps "counting chickens before they're hatched"?

Yes - that sounds right.

Originally Posted by ikbenrichard
I agree. The witcher series does a good job too. Skyrim doesnt cut it, even though it is a good game.

The witcher does a good job? really? It's a good game, but it is not a stat driven game by any means, neither are the gothics or elder scrolls. Stats driven is more along turn based combat with no relying on clicking to fight. Reflexes are required even with the stats helping.

Originally Posted by rune_74
The witcher does a good job? really? It's a good game, but it is not a stat driven game by any means, neither are the gothics or elder scrolls. Stats driven is more along turn based combat with no relying on clicking to fight. Reflexes are required even with the stats helping.

That was the whole point. "Hardcore" is not defined by the amount of stats.