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March 19th, 2012, 16:24
Originally Posted by borcanu View Post
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Don't see the big fuss about 10$
Me neither.. worth the risk of maybe getting a game that I'm actually interested in, rather than settling for what the current market is providing.
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March 19th, 2012, 16:26
Ya know….I had originally discarded the idea about doing a kickstarter for Unfettered, but after all this recent success, raised awareness for the method and support on these boards for other projects ( and I do put Wasteland 2 in an entirely different category then my own ), I'm reconsidering it.

100k, wow, I'd be thrilled with 5k. That'd be enough to pay for what I've spent so far and hire an icon artist and maybe a little help with some of the modeling.
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March 19th, 2012, 17:13
I stopped long time ago to waste my money on AAA titles. I still get them, when they are like $10; they provide me with a few hours of play, until I get too frustrated or bored (and often both). Backing up games like Double Fine, Wasteland 2, and now the Banner Saga is not only about the game per se, but about hopes that the everybody will take notice of this ‘revolution’. Gaming, nowadays, is not only about hyperactive kids; there is a significant market for people who started gaming when they were young and still do; people who wish for more refined, thoughtful, and complex game mechanisms and stories. These people are often professionals with deep money and influence, and ignoring them is utterly stupid. Think about books: would you like to only have books about romance? Right now most of the games are click-fest and movie-simulations. Giving what you can to back up a project you like, even $10, is not a risk, is a vote. I spent more backing up the above mentioned 3 projects than in my entire game budget for the previous year. I am looking forward to play those games, but more importantly, I am looking forward to the day the game industry would stop to be such a moron (and we all know that ‘corporations are people’, so they can be moron as well).
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March 19th, 2012, 17:32
Backing a Kickstarter is a risk. Welcome to the world of being an investor! The reason traditional publishers get to call so many shots is because they put up the development funding up front. They take the risk that the project will run over time, over budget, or will fail to produce whatever they want to get out of it (usually their money back plus some level of profit). This happens sometimes. People are fallible and they sometimes make promises they can't keep.

Just because Kickstarter provides an alternative funding mechanism to traditional publishers doesn't make the risks inherent in project development go away. Someone has to assume them, and that someone is collectively whoever fronts the money. And guess what? In the Brave New Kickstarter World(tm), that's us. If you don't like it, don't back the project.
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March 19th, 2012, 17:40
$10 is 2 drinks in a pub that a couple of hours later will go into the toilet…

If i can drink 2 less drinks in a month and invest in something i'll "probably" like, its worth it already, nevermind the fact that you are trying to change the industry as a whole with this kind of project funding.

My top 10 of best games in my life were all low budget, at least compared to todays' standards, if more and more projects like this are funded with teams that realy make enjoyable games than i think my $ 10 are a complete bargain.
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March 19th, 2012, 17:54
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I love the art style - worth $10 of speculation, I think.
The art style is actually the only think I don't like so far. Everything else sounds pretty good, but I need to see more actual gameplay footage, particularly combat, before I throw my name in the hat.
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March 19th, 2012, 19:10
They had my $50 at "turn-based"….
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March 19th, 2012, 19:52
A crowd funding project sits you on the investor's seat. Yes, there's always risk that some dev botch the game. But what drives me is the possibilities that will be able to occur in the future: Tons of brand new, old school RPGs out there with modern graphics and sounds (actually letter part isn't that important much). After considering the possibilities these projects might bring, 10 or 15 dollars is not much in my eyes.

I consider as this: After years of longing for old school RPGs and finally gave up hope for this kind of game (apart from few indies here and there), some veteran dev approaches to me and says 'Hey I'm going to make the sequel to …. (name your favourite old school RPG here), all I need you is to give me 10 dollars in advance. Do you take that risk?' Yes, I will definitely take that risk.

By the way I'm ready to empty my bank account in order to support Might&Magic 10 (or a Force&Spell project if he can't take the license from Ubisoft ) from John Van Caneghem. I hope he will raise his head from whatever C&C game he's making right now and see these Kickstarter projects.

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March 19th, 2012, 20:05
Easily worth $10, if for no other reason than encouraging people to try something new (er..old?) Hell, I bought Dungeons of Dredmor just on principal.
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March 19th, 2012, 20:51
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March 19th, 2012, 23:34
Holycrap guys , this looks friggin amazing . Revenge of the PC RPGS . HHHOOOOOOO!
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March 20th, 2012, 00:12
It…amuses…..me greatly that all these worthy projects are now coming out from the mists one after another during a time where I have pretty well no ability to jump in as deeply, or at all really, as I'd like to.

This one is also doing rather well on their total from the looks of it. would not be surprised to see it comfortably break the 100K mark by the end date.
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March 20th, 2012, 01:02
How could anyone refuse to give money to three guys with that facial hair? In all seriousness now, this all looks pretty sweet and my fearful cynicism in regards to Kickstarter is giving way to butterflies-in-the-stomach optimism. This spring seems full of pleasant surprises.

p.s. too soon and too pretentious to call it the "Kickstarter Spring"?
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March 20th, 2012, 04:01
I'm in.

I really would've liked to know more about the actual gameplay, but turn based + that art style = $10 from me.
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March 20th, 2012, 05:05
I donated to both DoubleFine and Wasteland 2 as those are pretty sure bets I think. This one I'm not sure about as $100K isn't much though they have what seems to be a very talented team. Seems like that is about enough to cover one person for 1 year and they are promising all sorts of things including a multiplayer mode by November or so if I read the donation box correctly.

I'm sure if its good enough there will be actual sales above and beyond the first round of supporters. I've gone ahead and donated the minimum to get the game and will see what materializes.

Edit: There was a radio/podcast over the summer about micropayments that people gave to a school teacher in Haiti. The generous people donated the money so he could buy books and supplies for the really poor. Well he got so much money $5K or so that he decided to move up and decided to build a new schoolhouse instead. At the end, he got in over his head and only had a concrete pad at the end of it and no school books.

I fear that one or more these kickstarter projects will follow a similar trajectory just hoping they have enough management discipline to deal with it if they do get a windfall. Not saying these guys will be guilty of that but just something that pops in my mind whenever I see micropayment like projects.
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March 20th, 2012, 08:12
Originally Posted by figment View Post
I donated to both DoubleFine and Wasteland 2 as those are pretty sure bets I think. This one I'm not sure about as $100K isn't much though they have what seems to be a very talented team. Seems like that is about enough to cover one person for 1 year and they are promising all sorts of things including a multiplayer mode by November or so if I read the donation box correctly.

I'm sure if its good enough there will be actual sales above and beyond the first round of supporters. I've gone ahead and donated the minimum to get the game and will see what materializes.

Edit: There was a radio/podcast over the summer about micropayments that people gave to a school teacher in Haiti. The generous people donated the money so he could buy books and supplies for the really poor. Well he got so much money $5K or so that he decided to move up and decided to build a new schoolhouse instead. At the end, he got in over his head and only had a concrete pad at the end of it and no school books.

I fear that one or more these kickstarter projects will follow a similar trajectory just hoping they have enough management discipline to deal with it if they do get a windfall. Not saying these guys will be guilty of that but just something that pops in my mind whenever I see micropayment like projects.
I'm sure that'll happen to some. As others have said in other threads, I think you just have to enter into it with the right spirit, understanding you may lose your money. I regularly donate or, more accurately, invest at www.kiva.org. I've been pleasantly surprised with the success rate of the folks I've given micro loans to there. Think I've only had one person default out of 20 loans or so. If you think of it as a donation, the occasional default isn't a worry. But I have a lot more faith in the drive of a Haitian trying to feed his family than a former Bioware employee who just got bored with simulating gay elf sex.
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March 20th, 2012, 12:33
Call me unimpressed.

I'm all in for a SRPG, but this still seems a little off. I don't like the graphical style one bit. If they had went all Anime I would have been convinced that they try to better the top of the crop of console SRPGs, but I feel they don't.

No kickstarter money from this time.

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March 20th, 2012, 12:40
I read a bit more on it, and it does sound quite good, I decided to pledge $10 anyhow.

Apparently it's inspired by King of Dragon Pass amongst other games, I'd never heard of it, but I'd like to track it down now.

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March 20th, 2012, 12:42
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Apparently it's inspired by King of Dragon Pass amongst other games, I'd never heard of it, but I'd like to track it down now.
Be sure to. It's one of the best (and most unique) games ever made.
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March 20th, 2012, 12:49
I will. I've emailed the owner of King of Dragon Pass, asking how is best to get hold a copy, a downloadable version would be handy, any idea if it's Win 7 compatible?

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