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BioWare - The Long Strange Journey of Greg Zeschuk
January 29th, 2013, 17:02
Polygon has an article format interview with ex-BioWarian Greg Zeschuk on his career journey. Although the piece discusses his next foray into a beer video blog, a fair amount of space is dedicated to BioWare and the reasons for leaving:
Just why Zeschuk lost his passion for gaming remains a bit unclear. Was it because of the sale to EA, Star Wars: The Old Republic's relatively small subscriber base, the anger some fans felt over the ending of the Mass Effect trilogy?More information.
"Everything's a factor," Zeschuk tells me. "There's nothing that's not a factor, but there's no single one thing. I think the best way I can describe is: Do the same thing for twenty years and it's very, very intense. It's very high pressure. It's very high stress. It's challenging. It's sometimes rewarding and sometimes it's not. And you just get tired of it after awhile. That is probably the easiest way to for me to describe it. Sometimes you just need to change things.
"One of the few things I find kind of funny is the responses of the fans, because they sort of respond that they are kind of mad at us for leaving because they think we owe them more games. You know it's sad I wish I could deliver on that, but I don't think I would be as good as I was in that space historically. Like I said, the fire wasn't there."
January 29th, 2013, 17:02
I don't hold it against someone who just wants to cash in and ride off into the sunset…
But quit the BS— admit that you sold out to EA for the cash, they f'ed your company like they have everyone else, and quit blaming the fanbase.
But quit the BS— admit that you sold out to EA for the cash, they f'ed your company like they have everyone else, and quit blaming the fanbase.
SasqWatch
January 29th, 2013, 17:06
Originally Posted by ChaosTheoryBeat me to it. I would like someone to ask him if it was worth selling Bioware's soul for some cash.
I don't hold it against someone who just wants to cash in and ride off into the sunset…
But quit the BS— admit that you sold out to EA for the cash, they f'ed your company like they have everyone else, and quit blaming the fanbase.
Sentinel
January 29th, 2013, 17:45
I found this quote quite disturbing :
In what kind of world do we live ? Where consumers demand things to be produced for them, or else … ???
"One of the few things I find kind of funny is the responses of the fans, because they sort of respond that they are kind of mad at us for leaving because they think we owe them more games."Players / Gamers demand that they, the Doctors, "owe them more games" ???
In what kind of world do we live ? Where consumers demand things to be produced for them, or else … ???
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January 29th, 2013, 17:55
January 29th, 2013, 18:09
even when their are gone they are still trying to spin the message
they quit because their passion was gone, they weren't forced out
fans are mad because they want them to make more games (even after it was said there was a bad reaction from fans)
their time at EA was their most successful and enduring part of the company, and not Baldur's Gate
pretty glib article
they quit because their passion was gone, they weren't forced out
fans are mad because they want them to make more games (even after it was said there was a bad reaction from fans)
their time at EA was their most successful and enduring part of the company, and not Baldur's Gate
pretty glib article
Originally Posted by Gorathso..the $680-800million dollars was real money? I know the dollar has been dropping but…
Bioware didn't sell to EA.
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January 29th, 2013, 18:14
My understanding is that both Bioware and Pandemic were owned by a private equity firm called Elevation Partners. Elevation is the one who sold the company to EA. It isn't clear that the Bioware founders even had a say in the deal. But by all means let's keep beating up on them.
Watchdog
January 29th, 2013, 18:17
Originally Posted by Alrik FassbauerYeah, seriously. My gut response to a demand like that would be "make me, jackass" followed by retirement.
Players / Gamers demand that they, the Doctors, "owe them more games" ???
In what kind of world do we live ? Where consumers demand things to be produced for them, or else … ???
Watchdog
January 29th, 2013, 19:04
Originally Posted by khaightPretty sure they orchestrated the deal
My understanding is that both Bioware and Pandemic were owned by a private equity firm called Elevation Partners. Elevation is the one who sold the company to EA. It isn't clear that the Bioware founders even had a say in the deal. But by all means let's keep beating up on them.
Originally Posted by Gorathwas not sure if you were just being technical, trying to be silly or both. putting the dollar sign after the value, that's being silly indeed.
Let me spell it for you.They did not sell to EA. And they did not sell for 600-800M$.
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January 29th, 2013, 19:14
The currency sign at the end is the normal way of writing money values in the German speaking countries.
I think it's quite a difference to sell for (300M - Pandemic) to a private equity firm as opposed to selling to EA for almost 3 times that amount.
I think it's quite a difference to sell for (300M - Pandemic) to a private equity firm as opposed to selling to EA for almost 3 times that amount.
January 29th, 2013, 19:31
Whatever happened, the corporate involvement has had a sterile effect on PC games over the past decade. Things are starting to look a bit brighter now, but maybe some of the old dogs have had their day.
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January 29th, 2013, 19:37
Originally Posted by RoqTrue, but the rise of Indie developed games along with the help of things like Kickstarter has helped bring back some of that old developer magic.
Whatever happened, the corporate involvement has had a sterile effect on PC games over the past decade. Things are starting to look a bit brighter now, but maybe some of the old dogs have had their day.
Sentinel
January 29th, 2013, 20:01
Originally Posted by azarhalright. it was all part of the process.
They didn't have too. Riccitiello was CEO of EA when it happened and Riccitiello was one of Elevation Partners "creator". He pretty much made a deal with himself.
Originally Posted by Goraththis i am aware of
The currency sign at the end is the normal way of writing money values in the German speaking countries.
I think it's quite a difference to sell for (300M - Pandemic) to a private equity firm as opposed to selling to EA for almost 3 times that amount.I have no idea what you are trying to say here
But I just remembered the English expression for all this. Its called "mincing words" and it sounds delicious!
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Last edited by Lucky Day; January 29th, 2013 at 21:07.
January 29th, 2013, 20:59
People are funny. I guess they never imagine the absurdity of complete strangers being upset with them should they ever someday change their career. It's a bizzaro-world level of entitlement out there…
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January 29th, 2013, 21:10
Dry facts can't prove it, but it seems sensible to assume that the doctors had a significant role in the passing of their BioWare stock to EA. Even though it was not a direct transaction, and Johnny R was not an influential figure in Elevation Partners.
I hope the doctors are enjoying their wealth - BioWare as a company had boatloads of goodwill, a firm, niche product where they were an almost undisputed leader, and a cult-like devoted customer base. BioWare could reasonably have gone on without EA. Now the employees who helped create some of the most inspirational code have a future as EA spouses making cheap Skyrim and Halo clones.
I hope the doctors are enjoying their wealth - BioWare as a company had boatloads of goodwill, a firm, niche product where they were an almost undisputed leader, and a cult-like devoted customer base. BioWare could reasonably have gone on without EA. Now the employees who helped create some of the most inspirational code have a future as EA spouses making cheap Skyrim and Halo clones.
SasqWatch
January 29th, 2013, 21:15
Originally Posted by TheMadGamerBizzaro world indeed.
People are funny. I guess they never imagine the absurdity of complete strangers being upset with them should they ever someday change their career. It's a bizzaro-world level of entitlement out there…
When I read things like that and the few times I visit BSN I have this strong urge to shout "Get a Life" to some people who enjoys (or do they?) the games that we tend to play and bicker over.
I like beer, I´ll drink to the hopes that he makes good beer.
/C
Sentinel
January 29th, 2013, 21:54
Originally Posted by TheMadGamerI don't think this is what's happening at all - maybe its the exclusive group at Bioware that he only chooses to listen too.
People are funny. I guess they never imagine the absurdity of complete strangers being upset with them should they ever someday change their career. It's a bizzaro-world level of entitlement out there…
However, I have expressed in the past that I think he would better serve everyone going back into medicine. But who am I to say that to anyone.
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They did not sell to EA. And they did not sell for 600-800M$.
