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May 23rd, 2013, 11:29
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Women becoming more like army men is kinda scary sometimes. Having to kill people even kids without question is not something i would ever want to do.
Follow that down the line and consider the boys who are pushed into becoming "army men" when they are not. I think we all met him, he who aren't violent but instead a deeply loving person who rather sacrifice himself for the good of the community or less fortunate, but are not willing to become a tool of death. Does that remind you of anyone you know?

FretRider here hate that man and are disgusted with the very thought of a pitiful weak man with "feminine" emotions like love, compassion and a belief in forgiveness.

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May 23rd, 2013, 13:02
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Follow that down the line and consider the boys who are pushed into becoming "army men" when they are not. I think we all met him, he who aren't violent but instead a deeply loving person who rather sacrifice himself for the good of the community or less fortunate, but are not willing to become a tool of death. Does that remind you of anyone you know?
A lot of people are like that now. Its just people are "born into" a hateful environment that makes them this way or an event(s) that makes them so.
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May 23rd, 2013, 16:16
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FretRider here hate that man and are disgusted with the very thought of a pitiful weak man with "feminine" emotions like love, compassion and a belief in forgiveness.
I'm a traditional Catholic. My role models are people like Saint Thomas More and Saint Benedict of Nursia. I believe in the teachings of Christ the King.

Contrast that with libruls such as yourself who worship decadent celebrities and pornstars and defend things such as abortion and euthanasia. You know nothing about "compassion" and "belief in forgiveness".

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Follow that down the line and consider the boys who are pushed into becoming "army men" when they are not. I think we all met him, he who aren't violent but instead a deeply loving person who rather sacrifice himself for the good of the community or less fortunate, but are not willing to become a tool of death. Does that remind you of anyone you know?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_wa…ne_and_Aquinas

There is nothing wrong in being a warrior when it comes to defending faith, family, justice and country.

But off course, I imagine you are talking about the U.S army, where right now none of that applies.

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May 23rd, 2013, 22:38
Originally Posted by FretRider View Post
Contrast that with libruls such as yourself who worship decadent celebrities and pornstars and defend things such as abortion and euthanasia. You know nothing about "compassion" and "belief in forgiveness".
Although not directed to me as I'm not a liberal but a socialist, I am very much in favor of women's freedom to have abortion and people's rights to decide when their life is over or too painful to continue. It is their life not of anybody else.
Fortunately unlike you I have no one I worship especially not people who are death and who can no longer speak for themselves

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There is nothing wrong in being a warrior when it comes to defending faith, family, justice and country.
In most war's both sides are convinced they are doing one or more of these things, or do you mean your faith, your family, your justice and your country?

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May 23rd, 2013, 23:34
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Although not directed to me as I'm not a liberal but a socialist, I am very much in favor of women's freedom to have abortion and people's rights to decide when their life is over or too painful to continue. It is their life not of anybody else.
Abortion is not a "right over someone's own life". It is something worse than murder in that it attacks the most vulnerable human life and denies its right to existence. Go ahead and ask any living person who narrowly escaped being killed in the womb if they would like to have been aborted.

To quote librul demigod Steve Jobs: "I’m glad I didn’t end up as an abortion.” I imagine most people agree with him wether or not their mothers considered the possibility.

It is a vile and cruel psychopathy that can only infiltrate weak modern minds. The idea of butchering unborn infants in their mother's wombs and then discarding their remains on the surgical trash is simply sick, sorry. As sick as facilitating one's desperate act to end his own life. You worship death itself if you truly believe in these things.


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In most war's both sides are convinced they are doing one or more of these things, or do you mean your faith, your family, your justice and your country?
Librul relativism: "there are many truths, how do you know yours is the right one?". Well sorry, I don't subscribe to the despairing librul notion that there is no truth and no justice, specially because such things certainly exist and people with common sense can't NOT know it.
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May 24th, 2013, 00:14
Meh, typed something lengthy, but what's the point. You're arguments are boring.

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May 24th, 2013, 00:19
Fret, I'm confused. You say you believe in the teachings of Christ (a Jew who lived in Israel). From that one would assume you also believe in the Bible (where His teachings are found); the same Bible which says that the Jews are God's chosen people and that the nation of Israel has a special place in His plan for the future. Yet, you post a cartoon which has anti-semitic overtones?? Doesn't that seem contradictory to you?

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May 24th, 2013, 00:58
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Yet, you post a cartoon which has anti-semitic overtones??
It's just what it looks like. FretRider is not a nazi. He said so himself here:
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Even a person of small mind and persistent ignorance can see that I am not a "nazi".

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May 24th, 2013, 01:49
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FretRider here hate that man and are disgusted with the very thought of a pitiful weak man with "feminine" emotions like love, compassion and a belief in forgiveness.
Nothing wrong with love, compassion, or forgiveness. A real man is capable of doling them out right alongside violence, domination, and grilled red meat
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May 24th, 2013, 02:35
One might say he "loves" violence and domination.
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May 24th, 2013, 02:48
Originally Posted by Thrasher View Post
One might say he "loves" violence and domination.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkSFIWzi7aA
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May 24th, 2013, 04:46
Originally Posted by Corwin View Post
Fret, I'm confused. You say you believe in the teachings of Christ (a Jew who lived in Israel). From that one would assume you also believe in the Bible (where His teachings are found); the same Bible which says that the Jews are God's chosen people and that the nation of Israel has a special place in His plan for the future. Yet, you post a cartoon which has anti-semitic overtones?? Doesn't that seem contradictory to you?
Pharisaic talmudic judaism has absolutely nothing to do with the religion of the old israelites. In fact it is a twisted and corrupted version of the religion, an evolution of the same pharisaic hypochrisy and godlessness that Christ denounced in the New Testament. The "jews" of today deny their messiah and follow a false and hateful religion that has devolved into a blood and race cult(most "jews" are actually atheists and curiously still identify themselves with judaism). That is ironic considering they mostly have no hereditary relation to the ancient hebrews:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022256629

"Anti-semitism" refers to the belief that jews are a "race" and should suffer discrimination or persecution. I don't believe that. No real Catholic is an anti-semite. Many great Catholic Saints were Jewish converts(Saint Teresa of Ávila and Saint John of the Cross come to mind). At best I could be called "anti-judaism" in that I condemn their anti-religion\blood-cult, and I honestly see nothing wrong with that being that I equally condemn all false religions and screeds.

I assume you are some sort of zionist Christian, probably American. Frankly, I can't ever make sense of such position. I find it absurd, heretical even. You are welcome to explain why on earth you reached the conclusion that a bunch of hateful descendants of kurdish converts to a pseudo-judaic blood cult which follows a post-biblical abomination such as the Talmud must be honored and even worshipped by Christians. I simply don't see any sanity or reason in it.

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It's just what it looks like. FretRider is not a nazi. He said so himself
And indeed I'm not. I see you are still struggling the definition of "nazism". I suggest the wikipedia page I linked earlier, or if you have the time, picking up a history book or even Mein Kampf so that you can read the definition from the very ideas of the psychotic founder of such political movement.

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Nothing wrong with love, compassion, or forgiveness. A real man is capable of doling them out right alongside violence, domination, and grilled red meat
Indeed.

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May 24th, 2013, 05:56
Fret, I was not talking about current Judaism, nor the Talmud which I too have issues with, but the State/Country of Israel which I support even though I disagree with some of their beliefs. (I support America too and I disagree with a LOT of their beliefs lol)

I am definitely NOT American; read my country, it clearly states AUSTRALIA!!

I am a theologian who used to lecture in Biblical Hermeneutics and an ordained Christian minister, though I try to lay aside my personal beliefs as much as possible when moderating this forum.

Remind me to explain to you one day why Catholics are really a heretical pagan cult and not Christian at all!!

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May 24th, 2013, 06:27
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Fret, I was not talking about current Judaism, nor the Talmud
"Reform" Judaism represents a minority heterogeneous group within international Jewdom. As I understand it not all variations of it claim to discard the Talmud, and many of those who do actively keep many of its traditions and more importantly: the rabid sectarian and ethnic exclusivist mindset, the hatred of Christianity and our Lord, and the open disconsideration of what they call the "goyim".


[QUOTE=Corwin;1061199428]but the State/Country of Israel which I support even though I disagree with some of their beliefs. (I support America too and I disagree with a LOT of their beliefs lol)

I am definitely NOT American; read my country, it clearly states AUSTRALIA!!/QUOTE]

Why exactly do you support Israel? I know we are veering off topic here, but I'm curious.

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Remind me to explain to you one day why Catholics are really a heretical pagan cult and not Christian at all!!
You are welcome to try, but then I would have to oblige you into the fact that protestantism and its thousands of conflicting splinter groups are a product of heresy and mammon worship and that sola scriptura makes no sense whatsoever

I salute you on keeping your beliefs out of your moderation policy. You are welcome to discuss religion with me though,
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May 24th, 2013, 06:47
Fret, the Bible says those who bless and support Israel, God will bless. Those who curse Israel will be cursed by God. They are still His chosen people, a part of the EVERLASTING covenant He made with them and He is not finished with them. Jer 32 is a reasonable place to start, though perhaps you should begin with 31.

Sola Scriptura makes total sense to me and little else does. What is your problem with it?
While I would likely be called a Protestant, as opposed to a Catholic I do not really subscribe to many of their 'heresies' and I despise any and all mammon worship.
I should point out that most of the churches I've been involved with in the last 15 or so years were composed of anywhere from 60-80% FORMER Catholics!!

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May 24th, 2013, 15:05
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May 24th, 2013, 15:13
Originally Posted by Corwin View Post
Fret, the Bible says those who bless and support Israel, God will bless. Those who curse Israel will be cursed by God. They are still His chosen people, a part of the EVERLASTING covenant He made with them and He is not finished with them. Jer 32 is a reasonable place to start, though perhaps you should begin with 31.
The Israel of the Bible is not the same thing as the modern day nation of Israel. In fact, if you want to be technical about it and go to the ancient Greek sources of the modern Bible, Israel, as it is discussed, is not even a nation state, it is a people.

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May 24th, 2013, 15:44
I like women, some of my best friends have been women. My mother is a woman.

BUt I like them best when they stay like women, femininity is one of their endearing traits. I want my wife to be opposite of me: scared of scary things, more prone to crying at sad things, into girly stuff. "Butch" women are so unattractive. So utterly unnattractive.

Conversely, guys that act like women, like totally pansy-flaming gays are so annoying to me.

Women have their role, men have their role in life. Just go with it, it's like fighting the tide.

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May 24th, 2013, 15:46
Corwin, people always get out of the Bible (or whatever other holy book someone likes to swear by) what they want to get out of it. Love and peace, or hate and anger. Enlightenment and Sciene, or hate and persecution. Pacificsm and crusades. All has been justified with the bible as well as condemned. Probably why that whole system of belief is so persistent.
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May 24th, 2013, 15:50
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BUt I like them best when they stay like women, femininity is one of their endearing traits. I want my wife to be opposite of me: scared of scary things, more prone to crying at sad things, into girly stuff.
I'm the opposite. All of these are great turndowns for me and a woman who are the complete opposite isn't less of a woman to me. I look for maturity, competence and responsibility. I can barely respect or stand a person who are 20+ and lack these traits. So pick your own woman and accept that your taste is your own, like it's your type of beer or tomato sauce.

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