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June 13th, 2014, 13:46
Originally Posted by Fluent View Post
Got it, thanks!

Another quick question. Might be spoiler-ish.

Spoiler – Fighting A Creature
No spoilers here as you still need to find it: you need a hammer!
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June 13th, 2014, 17:15
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No spoilers here as you still need to find it: you need a hammer!
Thanks! And I know where to pick one up

Further Impressions

So, after logging more than 20 hours with the game, I can safely say this is one of the best games, if not THE best game I've ever played.

I know that's a lofty statement, but I truly feel this game is a masterpiece thus far.

This game has everything. Very interesting story with great lore and a mature theme, wonderfully detailed and mega-immersive setting, deep RPG character sheet with skill checks and many builds, incredibly well-written dialog, fascinating characters, very interesting locations with amazing level design, various factions to join and choices with consequences with so many twists and turns you aren't sure what to expect next.

This game is truly a work of art. It's a shame that Troika and whoever else involved with this game didn't make billions and continue their work with new games.

Desperately needs a Kickstarter campaign for a new game. Has anyone from Troika pitched anything on KS yet?

Quick question:

Spoiler – Pisha
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June 14th, 2014, 01:04
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The PLUS version sounded interesting, with the new quests and stuff, but I wanted to play the game as close to the original as possible for the first play-through. I, too, will use the PLUS features in a future play-through, though.
Try a Malkavian then. They see so much more, it'll be a whole new experience.


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So, after logging more than 20 hours with the game, I can safely say this is one of the best games, if not THE best game I've ever played.
Welcome to the club.

Quick question:
(..)
I guess you're out of luck there … but I'm not sure.

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June 14th, 2014, 10:31
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Desperately needs a Kickstarter campaign for a new game. Has anyone from Troika pitched anything on KS yet?

Quick question:

Spoiler – Pisha
I think the licensing would be an issue, and since they just blew a ton of money on a game that went nowhere, I can't see White Wolf wanting to jump into another game any time soon. I think a spiritual sequel would be a better idea, then they wouldn't have to worry about extracting something good from the emogoth wangst that is the World of Darkness a second time.

As for Pisha, you're out of luck. Anything on the travel map that's not a new hub is a one-time visit, I'm afraid.
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June 14th, 2014, 13:47
White Wolf no longer exist. They sold out and are a trademark.

Here's a KS that is set in the World Of Darkness and based on similar themes:

Urban shadows:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects…?ref=discovery
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June 14th, 2014, 15:19
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Welcome to the club.


I just encountered a spot where I wish I had installed the PLUS features.

Spoiler – Guns, guns, guns!


Originally Posted by Menigal View Post
I think the licensing would be an issue, and since they just blew a ton of money on a game that went nowhere, I can't see White Wolf wanting to jump into another game any time soon. I think a spiritual sequel would be a better idea, then they wouldn't have to worry about extracting something good from the emogoth wangst that is the World of Darkness a second time.

As for Pisha, you're out of luck. Anything on the travel map that's not a new hub is a one-time visit, I'm afraid.
Yeah, I figured I was out of luck. Dang. I even lost humanity to get her to talk to me. Oh well.

Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur View Post
White Wolf no longer exist. They sold out and are a trademark.

Here's a KS that is set in the World Of Darkness and based on similar themes:

Urban shadows:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects…?ref=discovery
Cool, I'll keep my eye on that. Thanks for the link.
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June 17th, 2014, 20:35
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Spoiler – Werewolves


This part is rough. It's also extremely unnerving.
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June 17th, 2014, 20:50
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Question:

Spoiler – Werewolves


This part is rough. It's also extremely unnerving.
Well…
Spoiler – Surviving
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June 17th, 2014, 21:07
Thanks for the tips.

I beat it without cheating. That part was nuts! I'm glad I didn't have to cheat but I was really worrying there for a minute because I could barely survive 30 seconds of that. I'm glad it's over .
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June 17th, 2014, 21:14
Yeah, it's pretty brutal the first few times you do it, which definitely fits the mood, but it's always good to see the back of that encounter.

You'll be all finished and ready for a fresh runthrough soon at this rate.
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June 17th, 2014, 21:30
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Yeah, it's pretty brutal the first few times you do it, which definitely fits the mood, but it's always good to see the back of that encounter.

You'll be all finished and ready for a fresh runthrough soon at this rate.
This game just keeps getting crazier and crazier.

That situation definitely fit the mood, and was a change of pace from the usual encounters. Brutal, but once I got the hang of it, easier to deal with. Certainly made my nerves bad, though .

Nearly Final Thoughts

After nearly finishing the game, this game has been solidified as the best game I've ever played. It's a masterpiece, flat out. This is what first-person semi-open-world RPGs should be.

There needs to be more games made like this. What are White Wolf and Troika up to today? Is there any way a Kickstarter could be launched that brings together the old teams that made this masterpiece? I'm willing to start a petition or something. Seriously, a new game that builds on this needs to be made. There's no way a game this good should not have a proper sequel.

Any idea of where I could start to get this idea out there? I know it's a long shot, but maybe if we got enough people to sign a petition to create a sequel, someone from these old companies would take notice and think about a Kickstarter campaign. Any ideas?
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June 17th, 2014, 21:43
Originally Posted by Fluent View Post
There needs to be more games made like this. What are White Wolf and Troika up to today? Is there any way a Kickstarter could be launched that brings together the old teams that made this masterpiece? I'm willing to start a petition or something. Seriously, a new game that builds on this needs to be made. There's no way a game this good should not have a proper sequel.

Any idea of where I could start to get this idea out there? I know it's a long shot, but maybe if we got enough people to sign a petition to create a sequel, someone from these old companies would take notice and think about a Kickstarter campaign. Any ideas?
Brian Mitsoda (Bloodlines game designer) is doing his Dead State kickstarter; Jason Anderson (Bloonlines director) is working on Wasteland 2 story (another kickstarter).

So the main Bloodline people are working on their Kickstarter projects, and one would expect that the Bloodline spirit and experience will be transferred to these kickstarter projects.

The issue is with the White Wolf License and who owns it - I hope to god its not Activition!
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June 17th, 2014, 21:53
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Brian Mitsoda (Bloodlines game designer) is doing his Dead State kickstarter; Jason Anderson (Bloonlines director) is working on Wasteland 2 story (another kickstarter).

So the main Bloodline people are working on their Kickstarter projects, and one would expect that the Bloodline spirit and experience will be transferred to these kickstarter projects.

The issue is with the White Wolf License and who owns it - I hope to god its not Activition!
Well, I'm certainly glad to hear that both Brian Mitsoda and Jason Anderson are still putting in work and doing games. I'm sure both of those games will be great, but I've only heard of Wasteland 2. Is Dead State an RPG as well?

The Bloodlines spirit (or "bloodline") is great and all, but I think a proper sequel to Bloodlines, at least in the sense of being a first-person RPG with deep character sheet, choices and consequences, different factions to join, etc., should be made as well. That's the petition I would like to create. Another first-person open-world RPG like this would be amazing.
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June 17th, 2014, 21:56
There was a rumor going around that they were going to make an Arcanum sequel in the style of Bloodlines, which would have been friggin' awesome.
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June 17th, 2014, 22:01
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There was a rumor going around that they were going to make an Arcanum sequel in the style of Bloodlines, which would have been friggin' awesome.
Mind = blown. That would be unbelievable.

I also just watched the Dead State Kickstarter video. Mind = double blown! Wow! Super excited for that game now. Ah man, all these awesome games, it's such a great time to be a gamer.
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June 17th, 2014, 23:16
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The issue is with the White Wolf License and who owns it - I hope to god its not Activition!
CCP Games bought White Wolf back in 2006.

It's the same company who keeps milking Eve Online, and who cancelled the World of Darkness MMO. They announced on the forums they might sell the Ip.

This is taken from the forums last month.
Q: So are doing to do a Microsoft and hold onto the ip indefinitely,or will buying it be an option. Exploring options counts as an answer. A LOT of people where looking forward to this iv got a Facebook group I'm part of already calling for blood (i don't think their joking either)

If this is not handled correct their could be significant backlash from the wider community. This is a sad day for gaming

A: This will be looked at over the next few months. The WoD IP is very valuable and nothings been decided at the moment.
So this is good news in the end as we might get another SP RPG game in the series now. Then again we might get more F2P games. Depends on who buys it.

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June 18th, 2014, 00:21
Hmm, I hope we get a good game out of it but I'm not holding my breath.
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June 18th, 2014, 01:12
Originally Posted by Couchpotato View Post
CCP Games bought White Wolf back in 2006.

It's the same company who keeps milking Eve Online, and who cancelled the World of Darkness MMO. They announced on the forums they might sell the Ip.
Its a real shame about the WoD mmo; someone should use the wealth of assets that were developed over the 5 year development period and turn it into a SP rpg. Doubt this will happen!
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June 18th, 2014, 02:25
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Its a real shame about the WoD mmo; someone should use the wealth of assets that were developed over the 5 year development period and turn it into a SP rpg. Doubt this will happen!
That would also be amazing.

I guess in the meantime we have to support developers like DoubleBear and tell everyone about Dead State. They are definitely a developer that I am keeping my eye on from now on simply because of the Vampire: The Masquerade connection. I never thought I'd be interested in a zombie game, but Dead State sounds phenomenal.
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June 18th, 2014, 02:54
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I guess in the meantime we have to support developers like DoubleBear and tell everyone about Dead State. They are definitely a developer that I am keeping my eye on from now on simply because of the Vampire: The Masquerade connection. I never thought I'd be interested in a zombie game, but Dead State sounds phenomenal.
I also look forward to the finished the game. You can buy the game right now on Steam if you want to play a demo version of the early release. I hope they finish the game this year though as DoubleBear is behind schedule.

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