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October 19th, 2007, 20:13
Originally Posted by txa1265 View Post
So all the US loses is nipples? Well, if I need nipples I can get more than I ever wanted to see in 5 seconds on Google … so I'm good
Even if it is 'just nipples' it depends on how they implement it. In Sapkowski's short story "Lesser Evil" Geralt is visiting a wizard's tower whose servants are topless ladies - who turn out to be illusions. If such a scene were to be cencored you would be missing more than 'just nipples'. Not to mention the aesthetic value, your judgement of the wizard will be altered, and Geralt also has to make an important decision about the wizard down the road.

It all depends of course on how it is implemented.

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October 19th, 2007, 20:17
The whole idea of cut content in an RPG rubs me the wrong way. Can you ever really be sure about what's missing? I say gimme all the blood! Let me worry about naughty words or deeds! And don't even get me started on nipples!
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October 19th, 2007, 20:42
Ok. I'll ask the devs on official forum. Then I'll let U know.
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October 19th, 2007, 21:20
I found that post
http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/inde…topic=1059.345

Q:Now that the ratings board decisions have been made, could one of the devs be a little clearer on what exactly is removed in the American version? I need to know if I should import or not.

A: Well just few characters needed to be modified - some certain parts needed to be hidden by hairs and cloth. Two monsters and one NPC to be precise.
and that is all
edit:
so
blood : uncut
quests: uncut
dialogues: uncut
nudity: cut
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October 19th, 2007, 21:24
The funniest (in a sad sort of way) part is that here in the good old US of A, women's nipples are so horribly offensive and downright corrupting to children that they must be removed to avoid the dreaded Adult rating. However beheadings (possibly), unrelenting violence and repeated disembowelings with sharp objects is just fine and dandy!



what the hell is wrong with people in this country….
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October 19th, 2007, 22:46
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what the hell is wrong with people in this country….
I'ld say its Religion. It's always been about "morality" and how anything sexual is somehow "immoral", yet it often supports violence in the form of Religiously inspired wars.
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October 19th, 2007, 22:50
Originally Posted by narpet View Post
No, I tried 2 Mastercards and 1 Visa… and none of them worked. I'm not sure why… but I found another site that is selling the LE, and I ordered it there with no problems…
What site was it narpet? I only use one card online and if it won't take that, too bad.

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October 19th, 2007, 22:55
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What site was it narpet? I only use one card online and if it won't take that, too bad.
I was able to get the game from http://www.gpstore.co.nz/ with no problems…

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October 19th, 2007, 23:10
Bookmarked. Thanks narpet. I may just go with the plain Import edition—I'm not really that hung up on the paraphernalia-I just want the boobies as the artists and devs intended them to be. I thought the concept art of the Bruxa was infinitely more frightening as a real naked corpselike creature—can't imagine it with clothes on.

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October 19th, 2007, 23:44
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And how do you think this state of affairs is going to change? Or are you satisfied with it? We're not talking about a porn movie here.
I don't agree with it, as is evident from the dripping sarcasm I used. However, in the real world, that's going to be a very difficult fight to win. Which company is going to be the first one to proudly advertise, "We now sell smut to children again!"?? Now, keep in mind that's not what the company will say nor do, but that's certainly how their competition and various do-gooders will spin it. It's much easier (and profitable) to "be a good corporate citizen, trying to protect our poor innocent children from twisted and depraved games" than it is to say "hey parents, get off yer dead ass and decide if your kids are mature enough to handle this type of entertainment"

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October 20th, 2007, 00:34
it still all boils down to the influence of concervative religion in this country rather than taking a common sense approach. its morally uncacceptable to expose children to themes and truth about/of sex and drugs but its okay to showcase any kind of violence, and seperating another person from their soul so to speak. whether its the hypocrisy of the gay politicians, or priests the only way a more sensible societal resolution is when the biggots finally get their assess beaten enough that their sway over the majority of folks who don't think like them in the first place will have the freedom do as they please.
but i suppose theirs trade offs. we lead the world in serial killers, but at least we do a good job of not have children sold into sexual slavery.

oh and back on topic are you really paying 90 bucks (not including shipping) narpet?! you must be a rich man.

this seems to be the international version for 47 with shipping for those interested, 4 copies available.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll…m=270177616647
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October 20th, 2007, 01:07
$90 is normal price for a game down this end of the world!!

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October 20th, 2007, 04:33
all I hear from this thread is "wahh, I want boobies".

I'm not going to bother with this game. It seems that nearly every major RPG put out these days is something immature with an "adult" rating. NWN2 has been the only exception.

This game doesn't seem any less gratuitous than anything else that's is/will come out. It just seems to pretend its more sophisticated.

It is refreshing though to note that the US still has some standards. So does Germany it seems by correcting their initial rating on it.

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October 20th, 2007, 05:15
http://www.game.co.uk - I live in Australia and I had no trouble ordering it from them. I also got MotB from them.

Lucky Day, I have to wonder if you've been reading the same thread as I have. What I'm hearing is that we are opposed to censorship and want to see the content as the artists intended it. If I just wanted boobies, I could download gigs and gigs of them with little to no difficulty. If the game isn't to your taste, then that's fine, no one is forcing you to play it. You don't need to patronise the rest of us who are looking forward to what looks like being the best CRPG in years.

Also, do you really think Government Censorship constitutes 'standards'? Do you think that saying ultra-violence is fine but sex is wrong constitutes standards? If it's not to your personal taste, that's fine. Implying that the rest of us are perverted deviants is just plain offensive though.
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October 20th, 2007, 05:26
I think what you should be hearing is, "Wahh, I want to choose for myself if I want boobies." You're not interested in that sort of thing, and I'm perfectly fine with your choice. Magerette wants glorious knockers (nope, not going there ), and you should be perfectly fine with her choice.

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October 20th, 2007, 05:51
I gave my reasons and they were not prurient( or wish fulfillment, either dte ) but artistic. There is nothing shameful or even particularly sexual about nudity in art. It's a depiction of the human form. (or in the case of the Bruxa, the evil undead non-human form) I'm not saying I'm eager to view Bimbo Biker Babes from Space or something, but what I saw in the concept art was far from lascivious. It's supposed to be an adult game—adults accept the fact that reproductive body parts exist without giggling like a bunch of second graders.

Besides, I really don't think I'm going to find anything nastier in a video game than I can see on the five o'clock news, or than I have personally experienced in life. I expect it to be like reading a well-written adult novel. I don't want a bunch of morality police deciding what is going to corrupt my values—it certainly won't be a couple of gratuitous nipples.

If there was actual porn in the game I wouldn't be buying it censored or uncensored. I could do without the card game, but it seems rather tongue in cheek and even James Bondish, so I doubt it will outrage me. Men objectifying women as sex objects is one of their endearing ways of both idealizing and underestimating them—and I believe it's a two way street.

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October 20th, 2007, 07:35
I'm going to be importing. I'm tired of censorship, and tired of having others who think they can decide for me what I should or should not see. From the sound of things, there's nothing in there that would warrant anything above an M rating anyway, which makes it even sillier.

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October 20th, 2007, 16:21
This might be a good time to add this little bit of joy via YouTube:
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October 20th, 2007, 17:36
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all I hear from this thread is "wahh, I want boobies".

I'm not going to bother with this game. It seems that nearly every major RPG put out these days is something immature with an "adult" rating. NWN2 has been the only exception.

This game doesn't seem any less gratuitous than anything else that's is/will come out. It just seems to pretend its more sophisticated.

It is refreshing though to note that the US still has some standards. So does Germany it seems by correcting their initial rating on it.
I don't think that's what people are saying. I think what they are saying is that they want to play the game as the developers intended the game to be played, e.g. the nipples shouldn't be covered, the cardgame should still be in the game and the other stuff that was cut should be in the game as well.

You're of course free to buy the games you want, but when you buy a Mature rated game, you must expect to find Mature content in it, regardless of the nipples are covered or not. I don't understand people complaining about the swearing and language in e.g Bioshcok. The game are clearly marked as Mature and there is a language descriptor which clearly says 'strong language'.

In the US many stores won't sell Mature rated games to people under the age of 17 anyway, so I don't see what the problem is. In the UK and in Germany, the game got an 18+ rarting. In these two countries it will be against the law to sell the uncut version of the Witcher to people under the age of 18. The PEGI rating will also be 18. And I do believe that's why Germany changed their rating from
16+ to 18+ - to be aligned with the PEGI rating. (this is just a guess, though).

As for videogames putting 'smut' into games, I'm more worried about the option to gun down an man that has surrendered in Mass Effect that I'm of a 12-17 year old seeing nipples in a video game. The Witcher is still rated Mature, though.

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