@ Tragos: No, you didn't say Jews ruled the world, but you did say all US politicians need to be approved by AIPAC, which is almost uniquely a Jewish organization. But if you prefer, I apologize for speaking out of turn and equaling your comment to hatred to Jews.
On the other hand, claiming that AIPAC approves candidates for US public office is an outrageous statement in itself. As if one organization could do that (one that has no authority to do so).
That doesn't mean anything either, because if AIPAC had their say, I'm pretty sure McCain would have been the one elected, even with Palin since they both would have defended Israel's decisions (whatever they would have been) till the bitter end. Obama on the other hand was the one who was always badly regarded by AIPAC, claiming from the start that he was against all settlement activity.
On the issue of you being allowed to hate-monger just because you're Greek is a stupidity in and of itself. Does that mean Belgians or French are not allowed to say things ? This is utter rubbish.
@ Benedict: Been a while since you've participated in this
Last time I remember, I asked why you were more involved in the conflict in Israel than that in Sri Lanka... You didn't seem to exactly know why, but you did start to look more into it. I hope you appreciate I wasn't trying to offend you at the time and that I was merely trying to demonstrate that Israel seems to hit nerves it shouldn't among British people who have more of a connection to India/Pakistan and Sri Lanka than they ever did to Israel.
About Obama taking a tough line. I don't think he can afford to take too much of a tough line. As much as I am telling Tragos that AIPAC does not approve candidates, they do lash out tons of money to candidates and while Obama is not see in the best of lights by AIPAC and they would probably go with most Republicans, I don't see them going with Palin or Trump-like characters. So in the worst of two evils scenario, Obama seems like the best choice now. Also, Obama has been hitting high in polls lately and focusing on something relatively small scale like Israel when thousands are being killed in the rest of the Middle East or in danger of being killed seems like the wrong way to take things.
So, I don't think there will be any more pressure by Obama on Israel, not unless he wins his second term.
Also, the US military is of the mind that if Israel is gone they would have more trouble and not less, so I think most presidents in the past decades have been advised to support Israel.
