RIP Kim Jong-il
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yeah, this was - believe it or not! - the first thing that popped into my mind ... Now, let's hope they don't go 'ballistic' :-o
dteowner
Shoegazer
Will be very interesting to see if Glorious Leader 2.0 is a little less loony than the first edition. They've been working on the succession for a while, so hopefully we won't be looking at a military coup or some such while everything shakes out.
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We are already at version 3.0. And I don't think you can grow up as he probably did and not be loony.
Isn't it interesting how so many of these supposedly socialist dictatorships tend to factually establish inheritable monarchies?
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Looks like they celebrated by firing a test missile so there is your answer
BillSeurer
Eternal Supreme Dictator
First there was the Great leader.
Then there was the Dear Leader.
So now there'll be the...??? Leader
I feel sorry for my friends in South Korea. I spent two weeks there in 2007 and it is a great country saddled with a whacked out neighbor.
Then there was the Dear Leader.
So now there'll be the...??? Leader
I feel sorry for my friends in South Korea. I spent two weeks there in 2007 and it is a great country saddled with a whacked out neighbor.
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DArtagnan
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I thought leaders were just a front for the public, to facilitate the agendas of the people with actual power.
It's different in this case?
It's different in this case?
BillSeurer
Eternal Supreme Dictator
Kim Il-sung (Kim Jong-il's dad) probably had more power than Kim Jong-il but Kim Jong-il was no slouch. Kim Jong-il's son may turn out to be just a figurehead but that's what they thought about Kim Jong-il, too.
BillSeurer
Eternal Supreme Dictator
By the way, to get a feel for what this is like watch this:
http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3
http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3
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DArtagnan
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Well, given my understanding of human beings - I would expect people in power to use their front figure as it might best serve their purpose. Meaning, the price the guy paid to be on the front page is that he must accept responsibility for all the shit happening under his watch, seeing as how he'd get the credit for the good stuff as well.
Not that I know anything about this guy, but it would certainly surprise me if he was REALLY the one responsible for all the things attributed to his name.
Not that I know anything about this guy, but it would certainly surprise me if he was REALLY the one responsible for all the things attributed to his name.
blatantninja
Resident Redneck Facist
I've seen it said that the least powerful person in a dictatorship government is often the dictator himself. Balancing competing interests is difficult when the rule of law is simply might makes right.
That said, neither Kim Jong-il or his father (and probably his son) have done jack shit to improve the lives of the people in their country. Poverty and starvation are the most common element among the population and has been for 60 years. Whatever hell he finds himself in now is well deserved.
That said, neither Kim Jong-il or his father (and probably his son) have done jack shit to improve the lives of the people in their country. Poverty and starvation are the most common element among the population and has been for 60 years. Whatever hell he finds himself in now is well deserved.
Looks like he only gets credit for the bad stuff- Lol benevolent image!
In the news I heard a commentatopr saying that t is mainly the "mighty military" which dictates which way the new chief will have to go.
Plus, he is considered to be far too young to be able to lead a country.
On the positive side, the commentator had said, the new one had been studying in Swiss for a few years - so he "made contact with a state" we are used to. The commentator spoke of hopes that this might lead into a slightly different dictatorship, more open for the citizens.
(Oh dear, my grammar is awful today. I feel really dull today, bad weather !)
Plus, he is considered to be far too young to be able to lead a country.
On the positive side, the commentator had said, the new one had been studying in Swiss for a few years - so he "made contact with a state" we are used to. The commentator spoke of hopes that this might lead into a slightly different dictatorship, more open for the citizens.
(Oh dear, my grammar is awful today. I feel really dull today, bad weather !)
Rithrandil
SasqWatch
This has been a wonderful year for me. bin Laden, al-Awlaki, Gaddafi, and now Kim Jong-Il dead. Here's to hoping that Kony, Mugabe, Assad, and Saleh join him in what's left of 2011!
dteowner
Shoegazer
Definitely getting rid of a few "upstanding gents", but are you so sure the inevitable replacements will be an improvement?
According to a report the people in Egypt also realized that.
That they elected the fanatics, that is.
That they elected the fanatics, that is.
Harlequin
Sentinel
Indeed they went with one extreme to another. What is wrong with the middle eastern states. You seriously have to be collectively warped in your perspective if you think 'hey we ousted one dictator and can vote lets elect a bunch of other extremists because, you know, that makes total sense!'
I have high respect for the middle east historically since modern civilization traces back to it. The modern middle east however could fall into the ocean and I wouldn't loose a sec of sleep.
The problem with the modern Middle East is that it's not very modern at all. They're still executing people for sorcery over there.
Harlequin
Sentinel
As one who practices modern day Wizardry (or Witchcraft if you prefer) the issues I take with that comment (intolerance for another belief) and the reason you prob have (sorcery does not exist) are different we both agree yes they are quite backwards.