greywolf00
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I agree with that
I spent the best part of 3 years on that game…. Lots of fun - but boy what a lot of wasted time and money as well.
Exactly. Not to mention, hardcore progression raiding is basically a job in itself.
Elder Scrolls Online - Will Require A Subscription
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Exactly. Not to mention, hardcore progression raiding is basically a job in itself.
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DArtagnan
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I've bought a few lifetime subscriptions in my time - and though they're expensive, they're worth it just because I don't have to think about paying to try it again.
LOTRO is probably the best example of this. I think I paid 150$ or something for it - and I keep getting points with which I can buy the expansions. So, I have that game and all the content forever. That's a nice feeling.
LOTRO is probably the best example of this. I think I paid 150$ or something for it - and I keep getting points with which I can buy the expansions. So, I have that game and all the content forever. That's a nice feeling.
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DArtagnan
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You should try maintaining top DPS position on the horde side for 2 years straight
We're talking 4-8 hours playing each and every day - and then 2-4 hours of reading and studying mechanics on forums.
It was the experience that taught me that you can have 1000 people sound like experts - but out of those 1000 people, maybe 1 or 2 actually know what they're talking about
greywolf00
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You should try maintaining top DPS position on the horde side for 2 years straight
We're talking 4-8 hours playing each and every day - and then 2-4 hours of reading and studying mechanics on forums.
It was the experience that taught me that you can have 1000 people sound like experts - but out of those 1000 people, maybe 1 or 2 actually know what they're talking about
I know exactly what's that like (cept from a tank pov). Anything besides server first kills were considered a failure. 8 hour raid days, 5 days a week till new content was on farm. It just gets worse when you wind up as an officer/RL. Seen a couple people do both the GL & RL spots in progression guilds. That was a handful in more casual guilds, I would never want to try it at that level.
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You should try maintaining top DPS position on the horde side for 2 years straight
We're talking 4-8 hours playing each and every day - and then 2-4 hours of reading and studying mechanics on forums.
It was the experience that taught me that you can have 1000 people sound like experts - but out of those 1000 people, maybe 1 or 2 actually know what they're talking about
That... that's just crazy
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DArtagnan
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Yeah - I know it all too well.
Thankfully, I never cared THAT much about loot or raid progress - I just wanted to be the best Rogue I could be.
I ultimately quit largely because of drama queens and people who took the game WAY too seriously.
It may sound strange, but I was never invested in the game as something more than a way to pass the time and have a good time.
Well, not entirely true - I did get quite obsessed with DPS - but I never felt it was important to anyone but myself.
Some people truly believed themselves special and entitled because of something their character achieved in a computer game…. Scary!
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That… that's just crazy
Hehe…
For 1.5 years - I raided Molten Core for 4-5 hours every day (except lockout after finally beating it all) - hoping to get my hands on Thunderfury - which was a legendary sword in WoW.
I got everything except the last binding.
So, we're talking at least 1500 hours trying to get an item in a computer game - and I never got it
Playing Rogue and obsessing about being top DPS meant that you couldn't take your eyes off the screen for a single second (unless you just wiped) - or you'd lose DPS. It certainly kept you awake!
That said, I'm glad I didn't - because The Burning Crusade expansion came out soon after stopping MC - and they reset gear, making Thunderfury into a useless novelty.
Learned a lesson about MMO design and loot that day!
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Man, I don't know if I should bow in admiration, shake my head in confusion, or feel sorry... But it does put your tenactiy as a forum poster into perspective
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Man, I don't know if I should bow in admiration, shake my head in confusion, or feel sorry… But it does put your tenactiy as a forum poster into perspective
There's nothing to admire - so the last two are probably more appropriate
I won't deny that it took effort to play on that level, but when you spend your every waking hour trying to maintain it - it'd be profoundly sad if you had nothing to show for it.
I spend some serious time in Farcry 2 and 3 and L4D 1 & 2 > 600 hours each.
I solved the difficult achievements in L4D, and was a top 20 player in Farcry 2 and a top 50 in Farcry 3.
I solved the difficult achievements in L4D, and was a top 20 player in Farcry 2 and a top 50 in Farcry 3.
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I made it into the top 10% in Counterstrike, that's the extent of my online achievements
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DArtagnan
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Hehe, well - one of the reasons I got so into it was that my GF at the time was even more into WoW than I was.
I don't think I could ever play an MMO alone for long - as I tend to solo when I don't have real friends playing.
Playing MMOs solo is boring, imo.
I don't think I could ever play an MMO alone for long - as I tend to solo when I don't have real friends playing.
Playing MMOs solo is boring, imo.
greywolf00
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Man, I don't know if I should bow in admiration, shake my head in confusion, or feel sorry… But it does put your tenactiy as a forum poster into perspective
Feel sorry gets my vote. It was a ton of commitment, both time and money, but it's ultimately just meaningless 1s and 0s. So many more productive things I could have been doing, and so many RPGs I've missed out on. Least that last part is fixable.
I only finished one of the L4D campaigns on expert difficulty -- and that was only with a great deal of cheesing it. For example, there was an exploit where you could bypass a zombie assault by melee attacking a switch, and after doing that enough times you could jump over the obstacle. Even so, that was a lot of work and I couldn't talk my friends into attempting any of the other campaigns on expert mode.
I guess the first year or two it'll be subscription and then they will probably switch to f2p. I'm going to subscribe to ESO. I'm playing LOTRO for 5 months now and if ESO can provide similar level of fun (or better) then I'm OK with it.
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When I played MMOs as my core gaming time (from 1999 to about 2006), I would play them exclusively, so it was actually cheaper for me. Normally I would buy a game every month or so, and it would last 2-3 weeks till I finished it, and before Steam, that meant paying about $15-$40 for them. $14/month for an MMO was therefore much cheaper.
Now things are different. I rarely pay over $20 for a game in Steam. Also I like strategy games now like Crusader Kings 2 or Europa Universalis 4, which I play for months. So $14/month is not so cheap anymore.
Now things are different. I rarely pay over $20 for a game in Steam. Also I like strategy games now like Crusader Kings 2 or Europa Universalis 4, which I play for months. So $14/month is not so cheap anymore.
RIFT is currently F2P and as far as I can tell it does NOT require purchases. The stuff you can buy are things like mounts, pets, boosts to experience gain, extra profession slots, etc. Nothing that a player would NEED to buy in order to compete.
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Mr Smiley
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Kind of had you figured as somebody who would. To each their own.
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Yme
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I played WOW exclusively as well, for about 5 years. Top raiding guild on the server does that to you. I kept buying all the singleplayer games I wanted to play at some point though, which means I have a back catalog I'll never finish. Much more conservative with my spending now, I buy games on sale unless I know I'll play them on release.
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I'm not saying that you can't enjoy "free" stuff. Have to admit that I use Google frequently myself, for instance. But I would actually prefer to pay for a search engine, instead of having my searches monetised at the other end.
Here is an off topic observation about monetising our private data, by the way: http://www.slate.com/articles/busin...d_foursquare_soliciting_bids_on_personal.html
The opposite of "free" is Kickstarter, where you pay in advance, often more than you would usually pay for a game, so that the kind of game you want can even get made.
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