Sword Coast Legends - on Dungeon Masters and CRPG revival

JDR13 said:
That may be true, but only because they might be the only company releasing such games.

I love what they did with BG 1&2, but I agree with FunktionJCB. There's a big difference between creating games using an existing engine, characters, etc, and creating original titles.

I'd love to see more classic D&D, but I want a modern engine and an original story and characters.
Click to expand...

Yea, true, it's a whole another kettle of fish to make a new game/expansion, compared to improving upon an existing one. So it will be interesting to see how the new expansion turns out. That said, while it would be nice to see a new game engine and story in the D&D universe, at this point I'm just happy to get a new game in the series, even if it is with older technology. But yea, a new infinity-style engine, combined with new games set in the D&D world? That would be awesome.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2009
Messages
2,246
Location
Pacific NorthWest, USA!
Based on Steam Head Start comments, this is even worse than I feared.

Here's hoping those guys are just the vocal minority hating on it - though it sounds like they're bitching about what I was afraid of, including trivial action combat and a completely butchered implementation of 5th Edition.

I got it reasonably cheap, but I advise anyone on the fence to steer clear until you've done more research into this game.
 
As i said before this game is more Dragon Age Origins 2.0 with the DD slapped onto it by force. I am enjoying it a lot for what it is however the lag is a problem. I guess WotC is not used to catering to a large userbase?
 
Joined
Jul 22, 2012
Messages
4,388
Damian said:
As i said before this game is more Dragon Age Origins 2.0 with the DD slapped onto it by force. I am enjoying it a lot for what it is however the lag is a problem. I guess WotC is not used to catering to a large userbase?
Click to expand...

Is the story and overall quality of presentation better or worse than Dragon Age?
 
I do not know the story isnt active at the moment. It will only be playable when is released. So far we have been only playign user created maps.
 
Joined
Jul 22, 2012
Messages
4,388
Damian said:
I do not know the story isnt active at the moment. It will only be playable when is released. So far we have been only playign user created maps.
Click to expand...

Hmm, I see… Well, without the story - I don't see how anyone can say it's Dragon Age 2.0.

For my part, story was the primary appeal of Dragon Age - and I found the combat repetitive and tedious once I realised there was an ideal party setup that almost never had to change.

Based on the Steam comments, several people have tried it on the hardest setting and already found several broken mechanics that make the combat experience trivial.

Maybe it'll be fixed in the next week, but I remain extremely sceptical about this game in the shorter term, and I fail to see much long-term potential at this point.
 
Seems some punters have discovered the auto-pause options which they are liking very much, makes the game feel turn based. Interesting. I can't remember did DAO have auto-pause?


-kaos
 
Joined
Apr 9, 2015
Messages
880
DArtagnan said:
Hmm, I see… Well, without the story - I don't see how anyone can say it's Dragon Age 2.0.

For my part, story was the primary appeal of Dragon Age - and I found the combat repetitive and tedious once I realised there was an ideal party setup that almost never had to change.

Based on the Steam comments, several people have tried it on the hardest setting and already found several broken mechanics that make the combat experience trivial.

Maybe it'll be fixed in the next week, but I remain extremely sceptical about this game in the shorter term, and I fail to see much long-term potential at this point.
Click to expand...

Sounds like DA:O to me in terms of gameplay. ;)
 
Joined
Jul 22, 2012
Messages
4,388
Regarding the comments comparing combat to DA:O...My impression is that it is closer to DA2 in feel, but much more like DA:O in look--camera angle and avatars touching bases to melee--if that makes sense. The skill trees are more similar to DA2, and it plays like a slower paced version of that, while DA:O combat was closer overall to Infinity Engine games.

I don't mind DA2 combat, but if you hated that, you might not like this as a kind of mash between DA:O and DA2 styles.
 
Joined
Sep 14, 2012
Messages
127
Kobu said:
Regarding the comments comparing combat to DA:O…My impression is that it is closer to DA2 in feel, but much more like DA:O in look--camera angle and avatars touching bases to melee--if that makes sense. The skill trees are more similar to DA2, and it plays like a slower paced version of that, while DA:O combat was closer overall to Infinity Engine games.

I don't mind DA2 combat, but if you hated that, you might not like this as a kind of mash between DA:O and DA2 styles.
Click to expand...

In my case it's not really about the combat. I was ok with DA2 combat, but it just doesn't work for an even somewhat accurate representation of D&D. A wizard in D&D has lots of spells and options, while in DA2 you're restricted to what, 8 actions?
 
Joined
Sep 23, 2008
Messages
5,645
Location
Tardis
So if one were looking for a Baldurs Gate III type experience, is there anything on the long term development horizon to be excited about (with a modern graphics engine)? To be specific...I mean something that uses a DnD rule set, is party based, and doesn't have hot key mmo mechanics. I was hoping to get it with Pillars, but didn't get it.
 
Joined
Nov 22, 2014
Messages
266
Obisidian have a deal with Pathfinder to possibly do a cRPG. For now they did a card game.

Also Beamdog said their next project would be a game in 3d engine if Siege of Dragonspear does well. We can hope it is a D&D game.

The Demons Age game uses 3.5e D&D as it base although not officially a D&D game. We have yet to see how much is it like D&D.

Upcoming Torment: Tides of Numenera is not really D&D but also based on d20 and has classes and spells. It has party based gameplay and it is turn based and plays similar to D&D.
 
Joined
Oct 3, 2014
Messages
3,819
I think most studios see more value in their own IPs these days, and won't fancy shelling out for an AD&D licence.
 
Joined
Nov 8, 2014
Messages
12,085
I haven't seen so much hate for a game for not being another game since UFO: Extraterrestrials.
 
Joined
Oct 19, 2006
Messages
5,217
Location
The Uncanny Valley
bizorker said:
So if one were looking for a Baldurs Gate III type experience, is there anything on the long term development horizon to be excited about (with a modern graphics engine)? To be specific…I mean something that uses a DnD rule set, is party based, and doesn't have hot key mmo mechanics. I was hoping to get it with Pillars, but didn't get it.
Click to expand...

Siege of DragonSpear....well it's not a modern engine and technically it is an expansion for BG:EE (and not standalone), but I personally think Beamdog aged the Infinity Engine very well.
 
Joined
Oct 13, 2007
Messages
7,313
porcozaur said:
Game was delayed to 20 october lol
Click to expand...
Why "lol"?
As I previous mentioned, the game could use a month or so of polish (and improvements on the editing tools), so as far am I'm concerned, this is good news.
I certainly don't mind waiting 3 more weeks, for a better product.

It's always positive when a developer receives feedback, and is willing to take the time to work on improving things, instead of going ahead, and dropping the game as is.
 
Joined
Jan 16, 2015
Messages
97
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom