Risen Garth won't talk to me. (Alchemy)

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I want to learn Alchemy from the Alchemist in Harbor Town, but he tells me that I must first learn basic Alchemy from his assistant Garth. The problem is that Garth won't talk to me. I did fight him briefly after I followed him for Weasel for the Brugelweed quest, but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it. I also tried a joke spell, but he still wouldn't talk to me. Anyone else have this problem?
 
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Might want to try a Jest spell on him. Anyway, it's not a big issue - the mage in the bandit camp will always be able to teach you alchemy, as will the alchemy trainer in the Monastery (Arax, Ariax, or something similar).
 
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I did try the joke/jest spell, it had no effect on him. I guess I won't be getting alchemy until later…

The jest spell doesn't work on quite a few people. Another example is Cid's wife, who gets angry and won't talk to you if Cid leaves Harbor City. I know she has Nelson's ring, but now I can't get it from her, unless I beat her up, which I don't want to do.
 
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Did you finish the quest where you follow him? (The one with this little exchange, which I thought was pretty funny.) After that got done, not only was Garth willing to train me, he did it for free.
 
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The mage in the bandit camp does train alchemy, too.
 
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You probably just need to get the quest finished off, then. That was definitely a difficult battle.
 
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if you're not too far ahead, you can just reload an earlier savegame and learn Alchemy 1 from Garth.
 
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Screwed?

I learned alchemy after getting to speak to the Don and meeting his pet mage.

My question is this: how f$&@ing long do I have to follow Garth around? I followed him to the tavern, but all he does is have a drink, smoke a reefer, and speak to random people. Did I do something wrong? Do I simply have to keep waiting? Do I need to do something to trigger his moving off to a clandestine meeting? Help!!!
 
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First speak to Weasel, he suspects Garth, Leonardo's assistant, is pilfering brugleweed. The quest will then appear in your current quest list as "Bring the packages back to Weasel" - Your aim is to get the package as evidence for Marcelo or give it to Weasel.
 
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I simply sneaked around with the sneak ring and lockpicking level 2 and looted the town… when I got to weasel I found out I already have the packages on me :) (along with some more quest items)
I think they must be in Leonardo's back yard or his house… sneak in at night and you and Garth should not have a problem…he still wants 50 gold to train you though…

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I also robbed everyone (checking with them - if they would still talk to me - sometimes you have to give them a little time to calm down too) so it might have been on one of those guys… just make sure you drag them somewhere secluded and save your game before off-course…
 
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