Sorry but KotOR was not *significantly* more complex than Mass Effect was, but of course you are entitled to your opinion.
Sorry but KotOR was not *significantly* more complex than Mass Effect was, but of course you are entitled to your opinion.
Cool, now that we're moving on...
I think there is way too much emphasis being placed on the visual resemblance to Mass Effect. It certainly doesn't mean that Alpha Protocol is going to play anything like it, and it's certainly to early to start crying about it being dumbed down.
I don't care about how it looks, I'm talking about the skill system which seems to be a carbon copy.
My post wasn't directed towards you, it was a reference to the attitude I've been seeing about AP in general. As far the skill system is concerned, I'm trying not to read too much into a few screenshots.
Eight out of 45 messages on this thread are yours, though. That's rather a lot, considering that you have no interest in the game.
What are you suggesting, PJ?
That I'm somehow interested in the game without realising it?
How many messages would be ok, in your interesting world?
Either that, or a number of other possible explanations. Why *are* you discussing a game that you're not interested in?
Any number is OK, but IMO the *normal* number would be around zero. There are a quite a few games here that I'm not interested in, which is why you don't find me posting in threads that discuss them.
I'm generally not negative
I just don't often like what developers put out these days, and I don't mind talking about it.
I think that sort of thing suits the Watch just fine.
I'm sorry, but you are. Negative, that is. It doesn't help that your avatar paints you as an evil, arrogant bastard intent on destroying the world (which you clearly aren't). But it's all fine for the reasons you stated.
This stating of opinions by some does sometimes look like good old "get off my lawn!" complaining to the untrained eye, though. Nothing wrong with having a different taste, but I feel there will always be a clash between the kind of people that did like games such as Mass Effect and people that crave more of an old-school RPG experience. I'm afraid to say that most of the latter seem to have a more specific taste and are less tolerant of different types of games than the former. I think it is possible to love old-school PC RPGs and still be into the modernised versions of the genre.
You'd call it mass market game development and making everything accessible. You can either view that as a good thing or a bad thing. That is, not everything intented for the mass market has to be dumbed down by definition--and I think you'd disagree with me there.
Disclaimer: I did like Mass Effect a lot.
Dialogues, story, characters and music are fun for me, while pointless fighting is boring. If I want to shoot something I play online games like Red Orchestra or Counter-Strike, not cRPGs.Sometimes I think people forget what games are about, back in elemntary school teachers always said that when you play a game it should be fun.
I care deeply about gaming, and I lament the general "dumbing down" direction that is so often taken these days. Obsidian remains one of the few houses that I keep an eye out for, because I like their semi-oldschool approach.
When I see something to indicate they're moving in the wrong direction, I speak out because I don't like it. Whether the game in question appeals to me or not, is irrelevant.
AP is obviously some kind of modern spy game, and for some reason that setting just doesn't appeal to me. I might be surprised by the gameplay or something else, but I just don't have anything invested in it.
Fallout 3 was sort of the same, to me, because I don't like post-apoc settings. That didn't prevent me from participating in all kinds of debates about it - and more specifically about what Bethesda was doing to such a beloved franchise. I don't have to like something to understand it or have an opinion about it. Besides, Fallout 1+2 were brilliant in terms of gameplay - and even I managed to enjoy them despite the atmosphere which I, frankly, loathe.
Then why even bring up your lack of interest? Why not just discuss the stuff that you're interested in discussing, and leave it at that? You're spilling a lot of bits explaining in great detail exactly what you're not interested in, such as the two paragraphs below. Why do you think anyone cares? All it does is makes you sound narcissistic, prejudiced, and, yes, negative, which isn't helping you get your message across at all.
I really agree with what you wrote here. I liked oblivion, mass effect, fallout 3 and a slew of other games some here would take offense too....I am looking forward to this game to.
Sometimes I think people forget what games are about, back in elemntary school teachers always said that when you play a game it should be fun.
I'm sorry, but you are. Negative, that is. It doesn't help that your avatar paints you as an evil, arrogant bastard intent on destroying the world (which you clearly aren't). But it's all fine for the reasons you stated.
This stating of opinions by some does sometimes look like good old "get off my lawn!" complaining to the untrained eye, though. Nothing wrong with having a different taste, but I feel there will always be a clash between the kind of people that did like games such as Mass Effect and people that crave more of an old-school RPG experience. I'm afraid to say that most of the latter seem to have a more specific taste and are less tolerant of different types of games than the former. I think it is possible to love old-school PC RPGs and still be into the modernised versions of the genre.
You'd call it mass market game development and making everything accessible. You can either view that as a good thing or a bad thing. That is, not everything intented for the mass market has to be dumbed down by definition--and I think you'd disagree with me there.
Disclaimer: I did like Mass Effect a lot.
Just think of the energy you keep using responding to my posts, even though I'm ignoring yours.
I've said numerous times I've felt it's a big waste of time - and nothing good can ever come from it. You have an issue with me, and that's perfectly alright - but why waste our time going over it, again and again. You might be right, that I'm narcissistic and negative - so why bother interacting? Are you trying to "save" me in the cause of good, or are you simply unable to let it go like an adult?
Of course, you do realize that it takes two to interact, right? If you feel no possible good could come of it, why don't *you* "let it go like an adult?"