I'll keep my "amiable" attitude and ignore the personal stabs, if thats OK with you? Anyway I followed your advice and did look up disingenuous, and I agree that it is too strong. Apologies, I am not a native speaker. What I meant to say is "I can't follow /see the logic behind that statement, and find it rashly made". Thanks for providing the supporting quote - more on that below.
I try not to stab first - but calling me a liar tends to set me off, as I go out of my way NOT to be a liar. A pain in the ass, sure, but not a liar.
Anyway, if you did indeed use the wrong word - then no harm done.
I hope I've made my logic clear now.
Sure, and I think that is really cool that you are working on this game, and I don't mean you should be held p to the same standards or anything. I was merely commenting about the act of construing gameplay from a screenshot - if I did that for your game, it would be unfair, don't you think? Instead I think its fair to give the benefit of the doubt, or "optimism" as a starting point. But maybe thats just me.
Unfair? No, not at all. If I show people something with the intention of "selling it" or getting honest criticism - they should not give me anything but their most honest impression. If they think it looks like shit - then it looks like shit.
If I ever finish the game, I'll be sure to include some "stat screens" - because that's largely what my game is going to be about. I can't make fancy graphics as a single person - because it's simply too much work and I don't have the talent to overcome that weakness. I can only hope to achieve a "non-vomit inducing" stage of visuals - but I'll accept what people have to say regardless.
If you think about it, all I'm doing is NOT being impressed by pretty screenshots. Then I look at the "stats" screen - and make a call from that combined with the few months of development time they seem to go for.
I know it can come off as "raining on their parade" - but since they're not even here, it logically can't be. I'm GENUINELY surprised that games like this get so much attention - based on nothing but it being indie stuff. I think my "issue" is with this "indie myth" of them being these desperate starving super-artists or something. It just bothers me, for some reason. Probably because I prefer just giving credit when it's due and NOT before.
No, that was not my intention, see above. I was just me appealing to you as someone who is a developer himself, and has put stuff up for public viewing, and probably would be happy about a bit of goodwill from others.
I'm not a developer. There's a reason I try NOT to speak about my game - even though I don't always manage to do it. Afterall, it takes up a lot of my mental energy - and it can be hard to pretend it doesn't. But I'm of the mind that until I finish something worthwhile, I haven't created anything and it's not really worth talking about - even though I'm naturally curious what others would think about my ideas and designs.
But, if and when I do release something in a similar way - I really want nothing but honesty. That doesn't mean I prefer people taking pleasure from commenting on how shitty it might look, but I would most definitely appreciate someone like myself - keeping his cool and pointing out where the game seems weak. I mean, my ultimate objective is to make a game worth playing - not getting praise just because it's nice.
I do, I do
I know you're not stupid. But you have to understand that you appear overly optimistic to me, just like I probably appear to be extremely pessimistic to you.
I still haven't found that, is this somewhere in the comments? But OK, I agree - that would point to it being a more casual project than I would like it, too. On the other hand, for me as an iPhone user, it might still be an interesting project even so. We will see. Gee, thanks for damping my optimism so quickly
It's in the blog comments for the top-most screenshots somewhere.
It does seem interesting. There's no denying it looks pretty fantastic - better than Undercroft, which I thought looked great. I'd kill to be able to make my game look that good - but I'm going to have to rely on other strengths.
It wasn't really your comments that "set me off" - but some of the others talking about "dreams coming true" and "abandoning the AAA industry for this". You know?
It's excessive to someone like myself trying to remain objective and see things for what they are - rather than what I'd LOVE for them to be.
I'm sorry if I killed your optimism, but perhaps I saved you future disappointment?
