New Dungeons and Dragons CRPG?
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PatrickWeekes
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As soon as I see a turn-based tactical CRPG based on 4E, they have my pre-order.
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bleh, I hate 4E, although I guess it might work better for cRPGs as it's basically the WoWization of D&D
GothicGothicness
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BG 3? where did you play that ?
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Wasn't there recently some more rumours on a BG3 as far as new DnD games go? And I bet Obsidian are probably cooking up something up in the veins of NWN3 (if they aren't doing the rumoured BG3) and possibly another NWN2 expansion.
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If you don't mind older stuff, you might find something of interest here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dungeons_&_Dragons_computer_and_video_games
If you prefer newer games, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale 1 and Temple of Elemental Evil are the only recent ones I can think of that aren't on your list.
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Thanks for posting that.
The gameplay vid has me intrigued!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6OLpqEZMAE
Sir Markus
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As far as older games, I thought Menzoberranzan and Ravenloft: Stone Prophet were pretty good. Dreamforge also made non-D&D games Thunderscape and Anvil of Dawn that are older, but well done, IMO. Oh, they also made Dungeon Hack. Pretty much anything Dreamforge did was outstanding, in my opinon.
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buckaroobonzai
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4th edition rules are basically World of Warcraft put to a pen and paper game. A true Pen and Paper gamer would call it utter heresy.
The only people I can see who who like this are MMO players who want the same experinece on the tabletop for simplification of game mechanics, which in effect simplifies gameplay to the point of tedium.
Yes, I already feared the effect that wow and similar games might influence the P&P base.
skavenhorde
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Me too. I loved the spell effect icons. Exactly the same as in the Darksun games.
blatantninja
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I have to say that if 4E has significantly less feats, spells, etc., I will be VERY happy. My biggest complaint with NWN2 was that there was just TOO much to choose from. I was never sure if I was making the right decisions, or if they would even influence the outcome of the game significantly.
buckaroobonzai
VR nomad
One of the major problems with 4th edition's magic system, is that you get very few, specific spells granted to you at each "level". You don't even have any real choice about what spells to choose! It takes away all the variety, utility, and freedom that pen and paper players have enjoyed sonce the beginning of RPGs. It plays more like an artificial digital ruleset then a logical fantasy reality based game system/simulation.
It really feels like you're playing a caveman dull tabletop subset of a videogame translated to pen and paper. It becomes dull after about 10 hours or so...
blatantninja
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well some variety certainly is nice, but the way I look at it is this ISN'T pen and paper RPG. It's computer RPG. 2E had a much more limited set (at least in it's cRPG implementation) compared to 3E and that didn't keep games like BG and IWD from being boring. How does it compare to the variety allowed in 2E?