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Companies lobby to hide disparity in CEO, worker pay

WASHINGTON — One financial figure some big U.S. companies would rather keep secret is how much more their CEO makes than their typical worker.
A group backed by 81 major companies — including McDonald's, Lowe's, General Dynamics, American Airlines, IBM and General Mills — is lobbying against new rules that would force disclosure of this comparison.
The companies and some Republicans in Congress call the comparison between the chief executive and everyone else in the company "useless."

But some Democrats and religious investors say the information should be issued to help investors make ethical investment decisions and to highlight the nation's growing income disparity. Opponents of the disclosure, they say, want to hide the scale of outrageous executive-compensation packages.

A House committee Wednesday approved a bill that would repeal the disclosure requirement. Disclosing such comparisons "can mislead or confuse investors," said Rep. Nan Hayworth, R-N.Y., who filed the bill to repeal it and who counted three financial firms among her top donors. "It creates heat but sheds no light."

The vote was largely along partisan lines: Republicans supported repeal, angering Democrats. "The real reason House Republicans want to keep the typical worker's pay secret is that it may embarrass some companies to reveal that they pay their CEO in the range of 400 times what they pay their typical worker," said Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., who added the requirement to the mammoth financial overhaul bill last year.

Income inequality has been growing rapidly in the United States since the 1970s, and recent academic research has indicated the growth of executive pay is one of the key reasons.Executive compensation at the nation's largest firms has more than quadrupled in real terms since the 1970s, according to research by Carola Frydman from MIT's Sloan School of Management and Raven Molloy of the Federal Reserve, even as pay for 90 percent of America has stalled.

In 1970, average executive pay at the nation's top companies was 28 times average worker income, according to the Frydman-Molloy data and numbers provided by Emmanuel Saez at the University of California, Berkeley. By 2005, executive pay had jumped to 158 times that of the average worker.
Concern over the income disparity led Menendez to add the reporting requirement to the financial-overhaul legislation, which Congress approved last year.

The requirement calls for public companies to report the median of annual total compensation for workers and the annual total compensation for the chief executive, and to report the ratio of the two.
Criticism of the bill has been led by the Center of Executive Compensation, which is part of the HR Policy Association, which represents human-resources executives at 325 large companies.
The thrust of the group's criticism is that the information would have little value in making comparisons between companies because different firms have different labor forces, different amounts of contract labor and workers of different skill levels. Wages also vary across regions and industries.

Current rules already require disclosure of executive compensation. The new requirement merely calls for the additional disclosure of median worker pay at the company. The critics say this would add little to what is already known.
"You can already tell where a CEO falls relative to his peers," Tim Bartl, senior vice president and general counsel for the Center for Executive Compensation. "What is this number going to tell us?"

Last year, the HR Policy Association paid Bartl's law firm, McGuiness & Yager, more than $1.5 million for lobbying, according to the website opensecrets.org.

Although the critics question the value of the disclosure, some investors who seek to align their ethical beliefs and their portfolios see value in contrasting chief executive pay to that of workers.

Proposals to disclose the comparison were made at at least 10 companies last year, often by religious groups that own shares. The Sisters of Charity of the Blessed Virgin Mary made one at General Electric; the Benedictine Sisters of Mount Angel at Goldman Sachs; and Sisters of St. Francis of Philadelphia at Coventry Health Care.

For example, last year, Franciscan Sisters of Perpetual Adoration proposed at a shareholder meeting of Allstate that the company disclose a comparison of executive pay and that of the lowest-paid employees.

"If they have nothing to hide, why wouldn't they put it in their annual report, so all shareholders would know?" said Sister J. Tydrich, treasurer of the group. "If you give all the pay to the CEO, you can't give it to the workers."

At times, some companies have sought to restrain the disparities between executives and other workers.
For example, Whole Foods, the upscale grocery with more than 300 stores nationwide, has aimed to limit the cash compensation paid to anyone in the company to 19 times the average pay at the company.

"We think it's important for employees to have transparency into compensation across the company and not to have gross inequity between the executives and everyone else," said Mark Ehrnstein, the company's chief human-resource executive.

In 2010, the average annual wage was about $37,000, which dictated a salary cap of $703,000, company officials said.
This limit, however, does not apply to stock and options, and a couple of top officials earned much more. A.C. Gallo, president and chief operating officer, earned $4.6 million, according to proxy statements, and co-chief executive Walter Robb made just slightly less.

Even so, supporters of such disclosures said the example of Whole Foods shows that at least some companies and some investors see value in comparing top salaries with those of everyone else.
"We think it's meaningful information," Ehrnstein said. "We're convinced that the transparency engenders trust for our employees."


I set some decoy bolds to confuse investors
 
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It's no secret that lobbying makes the U.S. go round. But I'd be more interested in seeing a yearly comparison for CEO pay versus company earnings.

What you call ethics, I and other cynics callously call the bottom line.

But, coming back to the crux of the issue, I fail to see how a government has any right to impose regulation on a privately-owned company if the public's health or security are not at risk.
 
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To be honest, I'd much rather the execs get their loot as salary rather than the current trend of getting it thru stock options. Shareholders these days don't care about a company's actual health as long as the stock price keeps going up. Leads to a lot of poor decisions in the board room. If exec pay comes thru a paycheck the same as the rest of us schleps, then those folks have a personal interest in the actual health of the company, both short- and long-term.
 
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To be honest, I'd much rather the execs get their loot as salary rather than the current trend of getting it thru stock options. Shareholders these days don't care about a company's actual health as long as the stock price keeps going up. Leads to a lot of poor decisions in the board room. If exec pay comes thru a paycheck the same as the rest of us schleps, then those folks have a personal interest in the actual health of the company, both short- and long-term.

I think the wage must be set as a percentage of revenue or profit or something growth related , this way people will look more about the health of the firm they are working rather than personal gain against the interests of their employer ( you know who i have in mind).
 
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Republicans trying to hide the truth? Imagine that! This is truly disgusting, like cockroaches running under the cupboards when you turn the light on. ;)
 
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even if the CEO gets *10000 than the cleaning lady, as long as the company is profitable who cares?
frankly it makes sense supply and demand, everyone can be a cleaner, not everyone can be a CEO
 
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even if the CEO gets *10000 than the cleaning lady, as long as the company is profitable who cares?
frankly it makes sense supply and demand, everyone can be a cleaner, not everyone can be a CEO

Large disparity between rich and poor have caused more than one revolution.

About 50 years ago, the difference in pay between the lowest worker and the highest in a corporation was about 30X. Now it's 3000x. The massive advances in productivity and in turn, profitability, have gone right to the top and to the shareholders, and on top of that, corporations have managed to outsource pensions to the government.

CEO pay could be reduced a bit and pushed down the organization without any impact to profitability.
 
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Large disparity between rich and poor have caused more than one revolution.
The system that supposedly wiped out that disparity didn't work out so well, either, did it.
 
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The system that supposedly wiped out that disparity didn't work out so well, either, did it.

What system is that, pray tell?

All I envision is getting corporations to push down a bit more profit to the workers, and that could be done by offering incentives in the tax code.
 
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This is why you never want to take money from the government. Leftist agendas and socialist watch dogging. TARP was a huge mistake. Let the free market decide and face the consequences (meaning, never too big to fail).
 
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It is all so cyclical. It is like the 60's have re-emerged with socialist and leftist thinking dominating media and public sensibilities. Its bad enough the republicans ran the country to the brink economically, now we (the collective "we") are trying to clamp down on free markets and push through social programs we can't afford. Sure it sucks that CEO's get such monster packages, but let the market correct it. Government has no business here.
 
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You can make both arguments really. If we allowed some to fail they would self govern their lending practices. TARPing downstream investment banks making off book conduit loans should have suffered a similar consequence for their exposure. Having Barney Frank run FNMA wide open? Hmmmm.... the government really doesn't belong in business.
 
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You can make both arguments really. If we allowed some to fail they would self govern their lending practices. TARPing downstream investment banks making off book conduit loans should have suffered a similar consequence for their exposure. Having Barney Frank run FNMA wide open? Hmmmm…. the government really doesn't belong in business.

Allowing the banks to fail MAY have caused them to change their practices, but in doing so, we also would have destroyed the hard work done by millions of Americans, in terms of IRAs and other retirement funds, savings, home loans, etc. Where we failed, and where we continue to fail, is in aggressively prosecuting the CEOs and other executives who are constantly getting away with this kind of crap. When hundreds of billions of dollars worth of investments are destroyed within 3 years, and we only prosecute a handful of these Wall Street criminals, something is seriously jacked up.
 
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What laws did they break?

Stupid? Certainly. Unnecessarily risky? Certainly. Tremendously damaging? Without question. Illegal? Not even close.
 
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What laws did they break?

Stupid? Certainly. Unnecessarily risky? Certainly. Tremendously damaging? Without question. Illegal? Not even close.

So what do we do? "Shit guys, you sure got egg on your face this time, didn't ya? Nah, don't worry about it, you only wrecked a few million lives. Yeah…you probably should take a token salary for a year or so. Well, to be honest with you, you'll probably have to resign, or you'll be fired within the next couple of months, but you'll get a $30 million severance package. Besides, the $1 salary goes over well with the plebes."

I'd be willing to bet that Wall Street's proximity to Washington, and the depth of it's pockets, has something to do with the fact that it's not illegal.
 
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There are many laws that are wrong, and many laws that are missing. That doesn't mean that the guilty liars and thieves shouldn't be held accountable. It also means the laws SHOULD change. Did we see any fixes to the de-regulations that got us into this mess? Did we as a country learn any lessons? It doesn't seem so. How fucked up is that?
 
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