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May 13th, 2010, 14:04
Social networkers have an opportunity to send in their Fallout: New Vegas questions to Bethsoft via Twitter and Facebook, for a future Q&A. More details on the Bethblog.
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May 13th, 2010, 14:04
I don't use Facebook. I don't use Twitter. And I refuse to use any online dating service.
And I have billions of questions.

If I see it right, official forum members and their questions are history.

The bad part is that Bethsoft is not the only one who wants to make a fanbase in sexlacking virtual rallyspots. It's spreading worse than a mad cow disease. Perhaps it's even related to it.

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May 13th, 2010, 21:24
I quit using facebook. Two consecutive times of giving all my personal info to complete strangers is one time to many for it to be an accident. I wish them well, but I want nothing to do with them. Let the highschool kids enjoy it until they grow up and decide they actually don't want thousands or millions of people they don't even know to be privy to every detail of their lives
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May 13th, 2010, 21:35
Joxer: I think youre taking this a little too seriously - the official forums are alive and well. Theyre just trying to also utilize something that a lot of people in this day and age have come to use on a regular basis.

some people's outright hatred of social networking sites (and seems like the people that use them as well) always piques my curiosity - do tell, what is it that makes you despise them so?

Craig: People are only privy to what you give them. It's up to you to facebook/twitter/myspace/etc responsibly.
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May 13th, 2010, 21:38
Originally Posted by joxer View Post
I don't use Facebook. I don't use Twitter. And I refuse to use any online dating service.
And I have billions of questions.
Good. Because:

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Not signed up at Facebook or Twitter? Feel free to ask your questions in the comments section below. Once we have answers from the guys at Obsidian, weíll post them within our Fallout: New Vegas forums.
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May 13th, 2010, 23:21
Originally Posted by xSamhainx View Post
Joxer: I think youre taking this a little too seriously - the official forums are alive and well. Theyre just trying to also utilize something that a lot of people in this day and age have come to use on a regular basis.

some people's outright hatred of social networking sites (and seems like the people that use them as well) always piques my curiosity - do tell, what is it that makes you despise them so?

Craig: People are only privy to what you give them. It's up to you to facebook/twitter/myspace/etc responsibly.
For me, as a hater, my hate stems from the "er" or "ing" added to the end of something such as twittering, skyping, facebooking, googling, etc. It fills me with a murderous rage that makes me want to stab men, women, and children. Or why texting? Whatís wrong with typing? Whatís next, are people putting socks on socking? Itís retarded. "I don't search on the internet, I google!!!!!"

There were already enough words and things to make me angry before, such as comfy, hella, dude, emoticon users, exclamation points, and other such nonsense.

Its also unfairly applied. People can talk about texting, twittering, facebook-poking, and googling at work all day long and I have to shut up and take it. If I started talking about things that make so called normal people angry, like how awesome my penis is and how I was penising my wife, or how ballsacking all of them would be a lot of fun, and things of that nature, I would get in pretty big trouble I'm guessing. Where is the justice in that?

But I'm old school. I can change my own oil, I don't cry, I drink my coffee black, my Jack straight, my beers without fruit or sweet crap, and I show strangers my genitals whenever I possibly can do it without getting in trouble. I'd have to like the people who use facebook before I wanted to. I like social sites as much as I like social engineering, social justice, starbucks, communist-hippies, and listening to 15 year old girls talk on the phone.

Itís all a matter of relativity. I might like to show you my genitals, but you might not like seeing them. I could group you into a narrow-minded category of genital-haters, but itís a little more complex than that. You donít want people to whip their junk out all willy-nilly, and I donít want people to type to each other on little doohickeys or talk on their little star trek ear things. But we canít always get what we wantóbut we can always hate what we dislike or find annoying. And hating can be a lot of fun if done responsibly. It's a much better use of time than facebook.
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May 13th, 2010, 23:51
lol, good rant.

uh oh, I bet "lol" pisses him off, too…
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i can relate, the term "lmao" has always made my skin crawl. Especially w/ an exclamation point(s) at the end, "LMAO!!"
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May 14th, 2010, 01:47
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Craig: People are only privy to what you give them. It's up to you to facebook/twitter/myspace/etc responsibly.
I wish that were so. Last year, they changed all their security settings and defaulted everyone to very public profiles. They did something else a few months ago which had similar results. I've had enough.
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May 14th, 2010, 02:07
xSamhainx, maybe you should google "Facebook" and some words like "privacy concerns"

If you're as tech savvy as you seem to be claiming, I can't think of any reason why I should have to educate you about what's wrong with Facebook's attitude about privacy and confidentiality.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/05/13/f…acy/index.html

There is a recent article by CNN to get you started. And note that CNN is a Facebook partner, so they are prolly being fair wouldn't you say?

The last straw for me was getting emails from people I never even heard of (to my real email account, with first and last name) claiming that Facebook had told them that they might know me.
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I understand your point Craig, unfortunately you completely missed mine. And that's to be expected I suppose, my passing comment to you wasnt exactly what you'd call in-depth

My point is this - social networking responsibly means that as an adult, you should know better than to put your private personal information up for grabs to teh interwebs. That's like "internet 101" that we teach children. Not even RPGwatch, a place which I pretty much trust and have come to for literally years knows anything more than very general details about me. I have a blog, I have a Myspace, now do I totally fill everything out w/ my full name, address, phone number, etc like they want me to? Hell no!

Just sayinÖ. it's up to you to act responsibly when it comes to giving people like that power over your information.
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May 14th, 2010, 05:58
No, sorry. That's NOT the point you made. You said things that were untrue, and now you are backtracking

Your new points are bogus as well. Would you claim it is "responsible" behavior to withhold personal information from an internet service provider? From a vendor? How about from an employer? That's nonsense and you know it. When facebook violates the privacy and confidentiality of its users, it is not the fault of the users.
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May 14th, 2010, 06:59
Originally Posted by xSamhainx View Post
Craig: People are only privy to what you give them. It's up to you to facebook/twitter/myspace/etc responsibly.
I dont see how giving the advice to watch who you give what info is being untrue, and how I'm backtracking. You automatically trust everyone? You just dole out all your personal information to free services on the internet? Well, maybe not now that you realized what a dumbass you were to do such a thing. Twice.

Like I said, people only have access to the information that you give them, so basically dont give them much if any "real" personal information about yourself when making an account. Use a nickname, etc.
If youre going to be a fucking idiot about it and completely fill out all your personal info to a "free" service on the internet, youre asking for it. That's all.
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May 14th, 2010, 07:14
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you're free to hate, rant, dislike whatever you want, i'm with you on "hella" amongst other things but social justice? i guess someone feels little remorse for their privelage of gender, class, country, etc. you can stab anyone you want with your "epic" (i word i despise myself) penis but it doesn't change how small you are compared to the people out there (not myself) fighting for social justice and putting a stop to things like women/girls in africa being stabbed with weapons (real not figuratively) far worse or horrific than anything coming out the latest sensationalized horror/torture film.

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Originally Posted by xSamhainx View Post
I dont see how giving the advice to watch who you give what info is being untrue, and how I'm backtracking. You automatically trust everyone? You just dole out all your personal information to free services on the internet? Well, maybe not now that you realized what a dumbass you were to do such a thing. Twice.
Yes, right. And I suppose you will offer the same advice when Amazon accidentally releases everyone's billing information, or when ISPs accidentally release everyone's real name and address and information on their internet usage, including how many hours they spend on porn sites. Or, better yet, when Google accidentally releases everyone's search history tied to their personal email accounts. Or maybe when skype accidentally releases chat transcripts. And so on.

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Like I said, people only have access to the information that you give them, so basically dont give them much if any "real" personal information about yourself when making an account. Use a nickname, etc.
Gee, why didn't I think of that? Oh, wait! I did. I created one "fun" account which had none of my personal info and which I just used to interact with people I met online. And then I created a real account with my real name and real email address, which I used to interact with people I actually know in real life. Guess what happened? Facebook figured out (using gmail data?) that both accounts were mine, and they helpfully notified all my "friends" on both accounts that they "might know" me on the other account. Isn't that wonderful?

And in case you aren't aware, the very REASON people use facebook is so that they can keep up with what people they know or knew in the past are up to. Using a nickname and fictitious personal info would completely defeat the original intent of that social networking service.

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If youre going to be a fucking idiot about it and completely fill out all your personal info to a "free" service on the internet, youre asking for it. That's all.
The only "fucking idiot" here is you. An article from just today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8681730.stm

I quit facebook. I don't use twitter. I never bothered signing up for MySpace. I did the smart thing. It's you who is being ignorant for continuing to trust a service that has repeatedly proven itself to be untrustworthy. Someday that's going to bite you in the ass and then you are going to be pretty embarrassed about putting up such a vigorous defense of the indefensible.
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Oh, curious, you silly goose! I can’t comprehend most of what you said but I’ll give it that old college try.

“Social justice” means the advocacy of more egalitarian access to income through state-sponsored redistribution. It has nothing to do with children being stabbed in Africa, unless the people who worked for the money can’t afford to hire someone to stab the little girl you spoke of, and someone who didn’t work at all gets a government paycheck and now can afford to hire someone to stab the girl.

Social justice is about actual justice like the term progressive is about progress. It’s all about forcing everyone to bow to your world view. Collapse the American infrastructure and try to strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. All that social justice has done in America is spread hate, divisiveness, racism, and increase the gap between the have and have-nots. But the end justifies the means. The blue-blood progressives have a right to force their opinion on others through law or any other means with the help of cult followers more fanatic than any other religious group.

I believe in individual justice and individual freedoms, rights, and liberties. I believe from each according to their ambitions and to each according to their value. I believe in people taking responsibility for their own lives, not the government social engineering a perpetual underclass with no values and totally absent of responsibility. I don’t believe society should pay for individual people’s mistakes, or create a system that accepts, coddles, honors, and reveres those mistakes. What motivation does a bastard-factory have of not being a bastard-factory? None. It insures the flow of welfare. Marriage is out of the question because it will stop multiple programs. A guy marrying any of the plethora of baby-mama’s is hurting the family he never planned on taking responsibility for anyway. Where is the so-called social justice there?

And don’t say I’m privileged as I was born from parents who either came from poorer countries or had a much rougher upbringing than anyone here. As I child I wore my sisters hand-me downs and expected and usually got nothing for Christmas and birthdays. My parents were much too proud to accept welfare or any sort of assistance. Things got better as my father moved up the ladder, but at no point were we well off or free from deprivation. I have had steady jobs since the age of 12. Bigotry was aimed at my parents, and me in turn,for being inter-racial. I joined the Army and served my Country over four years honorably as Infantryman in the 82nd Airborne Division. I’ve led men in combat. I’ve saved lives by risking my own. I saved a family by disobeying orders. I’ve stood my ground when everyone else ran. I put myself through college while supporting a family (by working and going to college full time, with help from the GI Bill). I am overcoming two serious medical conditions. I have been a loyal and steadfast husband to a fucking lunatic psycho narcissist of a wife. I have children who I devote almost all my free time to. I started at the bottom and after years of blood, sweat, and tears I finally am being paid enough to match my hard work, dedication, determination, and fortitude. Nothing was handed to me. I earned it all. The only privilege I have had handed to me was being lucky enough to be born in the US, a country whose tree of liberty will soon be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants…and lots of cult members.

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May 15th, 2010, 05:41
Craig: We'll have to agree to disagree. You cant see the difference between something like Amazon accidentally releasing information of their customers, and you willingly submitting personal information to what amounts to a data mining service and suddenly - youre shocked and amazed that they went did something with it. Well, no shit. Like they just offer the service out of the goodness of their hearts. Youre the type of person who sends a guy in Nigeria your bank account info so he can stash a few million til he gets out of the country.

oh god, that sardonic wit drenched in Brut can only mean one thing - Lock up the wife-folk and shoo the chilluns, Professor Roqua's in the house!
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Originally Posted by CraigCWB View Post
Yes, right. And I suppose you will offer the same advice when Amazon accidentally releases everyone's billing information, or when ISPs accidentally release everyone's real name and address and information on their internet usage, including how many hours they spend on porn sites. Or, better yet, when Google accidentally releases everyone's search history tied to their personal email accounts. Or maybe when skype accidentally releases chat transcripts. And so on.
That's exactly the point, once you use something that build and store links of stuff you are doing and writing there's a danger, avoid it at any price. Some amateur sites won't let you the choice and won't warn you, they have to be worry about lawsuit then, alas not sure there's a worldwide protection in this area. For them, never give them a real name or address, use a fake secondary email, no birth date, age and other personal stuff but always wrong information and very diversified.

Other more professional let you the choice, so never allow a shop to store your personal information, don't use your name ever when you can, never subscribe to stuff like facebook because it's their job to collect and store your informations, that won't protect you against all, but in end there will be a huge difference anyway. It's not because there had been some holes there and there that you don't need put care in protecting your privacy.
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Craig: We'll have to agree to disagree. You cant see the difference between something like Amazon accidentally releasing information of their customers, and you willingly submitting personal information to what amounts to a data mining service and suddenly - youre shocked and amazed that they went did something with it. Well, no shit. Like they just offer the service out of the goodness of their hearts. Youre the type of person who sends a guy in Nigeria your bank account info so he can stash a few million til he gets out of the country.
lol. Google is also a data mining service. Do you use google? Do you have a gmail account? I'm self employed and I use gmail for my work account. If google decided to make my emails or chats publicly available it would be a freaking disaster. Do you think I'm the only one out of the hundreds of millions of people who use google software who would have something to worry about if somebody who wanted to snoop could get into my email account? Also, theer's the little issue of both Google and Facebook having access to your IP address. If they cut a deal with major ISPs to do even more data mining via internet service providers, it would be a trivial matter to attach that ISP to a real name, a real address, real billing info, and so on. And you act as if Google and Facebook are just sideshows on the internet? Dude, what planet are you living on? Facebook and Google are REINVENTING the internet, and if you don't like where they are going with it you better speak up now before it's too late. Or, not.

I won't be back to discuss this with you further. You've insulted me on behalf of facebook in each of the three comments you left for me. I don't have time for anyone as obnoxious as you are.
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